User talk:Veg Historian

Nice new user name

I have changed mine, too. All the best from Vienna, Carl Blausonorisch (talk) 06:25, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

When I saw it on my watchlist, it took me a moment to realize it was you, but it's a good name. And I'm sorry about the issues that led you to change it. Best, --Tryptofish (talk) 23:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, I am going back to normal editing very shortly. I have tonnes of stuff to do on here and many articles to improve. Veg Historian (talk) 16:47, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

A belated welcome!

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! jps (talk) 13:23, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

We need a welcome template for renamed accounts! Anyway, nice to connect this username with your previous one and glad you are sticking around! jps (talk) 13:24, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Jps, just to be clear, this is a very experienced editor, with a new username. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:28, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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Beyond Beef campaign

As a historian of vegetarianism you may be interested in Howard Lyman and Jeremy Rifkin calling for and organized the worldwide Beyond Beef campaign in 1992, basing it on the North American Vegetarian Society's 1991 40-city campaign. I've heard that this one-day event, asking McDonalds to put a vegetarian burger on their menu, has been called the beginning or reawakening of the present-day vegetarian movement, and many activists met and became associated during its organizing. Very little if anything has been written about this on Wikipedia (I haven't looked at Lyman's page in awhile), and was too closely involved to begin or mainspace-contribute to an article. MaynardClark may have some ideas. I may have said this before, but thanks (or thanks again) for all of your work on the topic. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:28, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, and that is a good suggestion. A few years ago I started drafting an article for Rifkin's Beyond Beef: The Rise And Fall of the Cattle Culture book. Instead of a separate article it might just be best to put a section on his own article about his views on the topic. I have will have a look round for sourcing. Veg Historian (talk) 17:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, they did that. I remember when they did that. As of January 2025, both Howard Lyman and Jeremy Rifkin are alive. Howard Lyman, a former cattle rancher turned vegetarian activist, is known for his work with the Humane Society of the United States and his book "Mad Cowboy: Plain Truth from the Cattle Rancher Who Won't Eat Meat."

Jeremy Rifkin, an economist and author, is recognized for his writings on the economic and environmental impacts of livestock farming, including his book "Beyond Beef: The Rise and Fall of the Cattle Culture."

In 1991, Lyman joined forces with Rifkin's "Beyond Beef Campaign," aiming to reduce American beef consumption by 50% and promote consumption of organically and sustainably grown plant foods. The campaign sought to raise awareness about the environmental and health impacts of beef production. For online references to their work in the "Beyond Beef" campaign, you can consult the following resources:

• Foundation on Economic Trends: This organization, led by Jeremy Rifkin, provides information on the "Beyond Beef" campaign, including its objectives and outcomes.=
• McSpotlight: This platform offers press articles and reports related to the "Beyond Beef" campaign, detailing its initiatives and impact.
• Amazon: The book "Mad Cowboy" by Howard Lyman, co-authored with Glen Merzer, provides insights into Lyman's journey and his involvement in the "Beyond Beef" campaign.

I have (several good) photographs of activists 'picketing' burger chains for a plant-based burger ("quick, hot, satisfying vegetarian sandwich"). Saiom Nellie Shriver may have been a legacy contributor to that (kind of) veggieburger movement. MaynardClark (talk) 04:39, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

References

Thanks. Lyman was the main organizer of the 900+ city international one-day campaign. There were quite a lot of articles on it, and the NAVS one-day event received media attention as well. These two one-day demonstrations, a year apart (Beyond Beef copied the NAVS model), brought vegetarianism into the realm of on-site protests, although not really a protest as much as actively asking for the addition of a product to the McDonald's menu. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:07, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia requires sufficient high-quality documentation of that historical fact. Surely there is such documentation available to us. Howard Lyman played a pivotal role in the Beyond Beef Campaign, serving as its Executive Director. Under his leadership, the campaign organized over 2,400 teams comprising more than 10,000 individuals, all working towards reducing beef consumption and raising awareness about the environmental and health impacts of the cattle industry.

• The Beyond Beef Campaign, initiated in 1992 by Jeremy Rifkin and the Foundation on Economic Trends, aimed to reduce beef consumption by 50%. The campaign highlighted concerns such as methane emissions from cattle, which have a warming effect significantly greater than carbon dioxide.
• In a 1993 interview with Studs Terkel, Lyman discussed the campaign's opposition to the "cattle culture" of overproduction and overconsumption of beef, advocating for a substantial reduction in beef consumption.
• Lyman's leadership in the Beyond Beef Campaign significantly contributed to the movement's efforts to promote plant-based diets and sustainable agriculture.MaynardClark (talk) 12:04, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

I think the best thing to do is update both those guys articles. I will have a look round for sourcing. Veg Historian (talk) 18:25, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

References

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