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Responding to edit requests at WP:RFPP

Am I allowed to respond to edit requests at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Edit if I have sufficient permissions to edit the pages requested, or are only admins able to respond to these? Justjourney (talk | contribs) 20:34, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

If you are able to make the edits, and consider the requests are justified, then you should go ahead. Maproom (talk) 22:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Question

Can you review my requests on Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects? They haven't been reviewed in a long time.Rafael Hello! 23:02, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

A couple still haven't been reviewed. They're dated 29 June. If the temperature in your kitchen is 30°C, then "since yesterday" is a long time to have left your butter outside your fridge. But as they await review, redirect creation proposals don't turn into butyric acid. -- Hoary (talk) 08:44, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

I dont know what it was but it sounds good while reading. Sys64wiki (talk) 06:47, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Samuel Whiting Jr.

Samuel Whiting Jr.

I accidently removed the "succession box" at the end of the is page. I have found a reference - which is seen now ref number 1 (identical to ref number 6) at the bottom page to support that Samuel Ruggles succeeded Samuel Whiting Jr. as the next minister of Billerica. Please put the "succession box" back at the end of the page. ALSO reference number 6 is in the red - please fix. Brrowbottom (talk) 01:40, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

 Done. On a not totally unrelated note, this user talk page mentions our policy on logged out editing and use of multiple accounts. I wonder if you have anything to say about that. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 03:56, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

I was about to do some of that, but D 'n' B beat me to it. I read "access-date=3 May 20255" (a considerable distance in the future). Yes, all of this looks curiously familiar. -- Hoary (talk) 03:59, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Is there a way to automatically make a list of articles without photos for a WikiProject?

Hi! I noticed a lot of the bios related to Wikipedia:WikiProject Electronic literature are missing photos and I would like to ask people to upload photos they've taken of people to Wikimedia Commons. Is there a way to automatically identify all the articles in the WikiProject that are missing photos to motivate people to fill in the gaps? I feel like I've seen this on other WikiProjects but can't find it now. Lijil (talk) 08:30, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Add |needs-photo=yes to the project template(s) on the talk page of the relevant articles (example at Talk:Thomas Bolton (microscopist)).

This will add them to categories like Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of people; you can then search for articles that are in both that and the project category. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:22, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Try this link to a pre-filled Petscan query, is that what you were after? - X201 (talk) 11:35, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Confusing double single situation

Hello! In October 2024, Poppy released a double single titled "The Cost of Giving Up / Crystallized", and both songs are from her album Negative Spaces. However, in March 2025, "The Cost of Giving Up" was officially sent to radio as a single. How should this be reflected in her discography page? Should it be kept as "The Cost of Giving Up / Crystallized" (2024) or "The Cost of Giving Up" (2025), and what would happen to "Crystallized"? Gabriella Grande (talk) 19:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Gabriella Grande, you might ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pop music. -- Hoary (talk) 08:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

Sorry to be late to the party, Gabriella Grande. My personal opinion is that you should treat the Oct 2024 release and the March 2025 release as two separate entities with two separate entries in the table. This is not based on any written Wikipedia preference that I know of (though there may be one), but solely on my common sense. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.210.159.137 (talk) 22:13, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Would this article have any chance in a good article nomination?

I'm mainly asking this because, currently, GAN has about 800 articles more or less, so I don't want to waste anyone's (or my) time for something that may autofail. I'm also asking because, even after reading some GAN criteria, I'm still lost and unfamiliar. This is in reference to fishing industry in Peru, a recent article that I made. I spent a lot of time on it as a draft, so I'd like to take it further, but I'm simply unsure if it would have any chance at a GAN, even with the depth of information I have. Would anyone do a quick review and help out? Thank you very much in advance! SonOfYoutubers (talk) 21:36, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

I don't normally involve myself in GAN stuff, but it looks fine to me, from a quick eyeballing. No doubt those more familiar with assessment will find something or other that needs fixing, but meanwhile can I suggest that regardless of whether it is a 'good article' per the criteria, it definitely looks like a good article per normal usage of the phrase. Well done. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:50, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

@AndyTheGrump Thanks for the compliment! SonOfYoutubers (talk) 23:32, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

You could try Wikipedia:Peer review before making a WP:GAN. TSventon (talk) 22:50, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon Thank you for the suggestion, I was unaware of that feature actually. Thank you and done! SonOfYoutubers (talk) 23:32, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

@SonOfYoutubers: I haven't tried WP:PEER myself, but you can see that many of the requests are GAC or FAC related. TSventon (talk) 11:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

I didn't do an in-depth look, but I'll give a few notes. Every statement made in the article needs to be supported by a citation at GAN, either at the end of the sentence, or at the end of a few sentences if the citation supports all of them. None of the citations should be simple URLs, each one needs enough information to identify the specific page it's citing even if the link doesn't work. Statista is considered unreliable on Wikipedia and shouldn't be used as a source. The "Related organizations and projects" section mostly describes organizations cited by themselves (primary sources), but ideally anything worth including should be cited to a separate secondary source that describes it; I suggest looking for sources about fishing organizations in Peru and just including the ones they describe. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 00:32, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

@Thebiguglyalien Thank you for the suggestions! I have removed Statista and replaced the info with a better source and also more up-to-date information. As for the related organizations and projects, I'll see what I can do to try to improve that section. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 05:45, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Help

How coulf I fix this? bcl:Module:Documentation? Shimin_Ufesoj (🦜) 04:04, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

@ShiminUfesoj You are at the English language Wikipedia, which is a different project from the Central Bikol Wikipedia. You will need to ask there. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:43, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

The problem is, no one knows how because it's just a small Wikipedia project, not that many people edit it.. I'm just hoping someone can help with this. Shimin_Ufesoj (🦜) 08:41, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @ShiminUfesoj. I'm not very familiar with Lua, but it looks to me as if the call to message() is looking its first argument up in an array called cfg[]. At 144, the call is message ('container'); which means that it is trying to look up the entry cfg['container'], and not finding it.

Array cfg is populated by

mw.loadData('Module:Documentation/config')

My guess (and it's only a guess) is that somebody has copied the lua module over to bcl-wiki, without copying (or, rather, translating) its config file.

I'm afraid I can't help you beyond that. You might find Wikipedia:Lua has something useful, or else ask at WP:VPT. Make it clear in your question that though this is in a different Wikipedia, it's a question about modules. ColinFine (talk) 09:57, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

@ShiminUfesoj: I don't know Lua but the error message mentions cfg.container. Module:Documentation/config sets cfg['container'] and bcl:Module:Documentation/config does not. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:04, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

@Shantavira: Volunteers on English Wikipedia regularly—and very generously—help out with technical issues on other Wikimedia projects. Please bear that in mind in future, when answering such questions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:17, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

--Thank you guys for the help, I found out someone module missing so I'll create that one... --Shimin_Ufesoj (🦜) 00:08, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Map cordinate system

Hi, I see I can see a map and location Battle of Rozgony + London Could you explain how works this? How can I do the same for any location? OrionNimrod (talk) 11:05, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

It's not clear what you're asking; please can you rephrase the question, and elaborate? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:24, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

In the infobox, you can see maps in many articles and red point which marks the location on the map. I do not know how can I do the same or how works this. OrionNimrod (talk) 12:37, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Probably I found it Template:Location map + Template:Location map/List + Module:Location map/data/Hungary OrionNimrod (talk) 13:11, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

About for Polcasan

Dear All, Can you help me to create page for Polcasan. It's not a commercial nor advertisement . English is not my native language . So,I need your help. Polcasan is a adorable mascot.That why i want to write for him. He is very famous in Thai. Please Help. NMCapri (talk) 11:31, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

You Draft:Polcasan was declined and you seem to have re-submitted it. It will, I predict, be declined again as it has insufficient reliable sources. If English is not your first language, why not try to create an equivalent article in the Wikipedia language you are fluent in? Do not use a chatbot to do so. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:43, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

@NMCapri Please do not remove threads from the Help Desk as you did recently Even if no longer useful to you, the information may help others. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:16, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

wikipedia page creation

hello, i am trying to create a page but my draft get rejected due to insufficient sources and references also so i just need to know about references and sources and how we draft, what thing mandatory. Please update me as soon as possible Sonali Nawale (talk) 19:37, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Sonali Nawale

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia.

LIke many people who try the challenging task of creating a new article without first learning how Wikipedia works, you have written Draft:Jeanne Bender backwards: you wrote what you knew, and then looked for sources.

The effective way to write articles is first to find suitable sources (see WP:42), and then to write a summary of what those sources say. Wikipedia is not interested in what you know (or what I know, or what any random person on the internet knows) unless it is verified by a reliable published source. ColinFine (talk) 19:56, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to Wikipedia! You should see WP:Your first article. Since you are a newer editor, I recommend using WP:Teahouse instead of the help desk. Happy editing! Rafael Hello! 00:45, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Kyrsten Sinema on List

On List of LGBTQ members of the United States Congress, there is something wrong with the sub-list "Senate": The information for former Senator Kyrsten Sinema is grayed-out. I can only read it when highlighting the text with my cursor. I think this has to do with the fact that she was both a Democrat and an Independent in the Senate, which caused the Wikitext to be gray-out the page. Because I don't know what exactly what happened, I thought I would ask here. Joesom333 (talk) 21:33, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

@Joesom333: It looked normal to me but there was some unclosed code which may affect browsers differently. Does it loook OK to you after I removed the code [1]? PrimeHunter (talk) 21:50, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

It does now. Thank you! Joesom333 (talk) 23:54, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

Citing a source with a published-date as well as an updated-date

I am formatting a citation with cite web. The article has a published-date and an updated-date. Published Oct 18, 2004, 12:00am EDT Updated Jun 06, 2013, 12:49pm EDT Cite web appears to only have one place to add a date. For the "|date=" field, should I use the published date or the updated date? Is there another recommended solution? I tried searching the help desk archives, but could not formulate a query that returned something useful. Any suggestions? The article I am referencing: https://www.forbes.com/forbes/2004/1018/088.html Thank you Adakiko (talk) 23:09, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

@Adakiko: When I've run into that situation, I've used the date of the updated version in the template, since that's the date of the article as it stood when I read it. An example is the first ref in Leslie Parnas, where the Grove Music Online article was written in 2013 by James Wierzbicki and revised in 2022 by Elizabeth Perten. Deor (talk) 23:23, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

@Deor: Thank you for your advice. I'll do that. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 23:26, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

help

What is the format to request an article deletion? Rafael Hello! 00:34, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

see WP:PROD. Sys64wiki (talk) 00:43, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

@Rafaelthegreat: While WP:PROD is one option, it can be removed by any user – if that gets declined, you can nominate the article to WP:AFD for a more in-depth discussion. You can install WP:Twinkle to make the AfD nomination. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 02:06, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Machine Translation Cross-checking?

Moved from Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab) § Machine Translation Cross-checking?

 – Aaron Liu (talk) 02:01, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

The Future I Saw has

, which it does –a Mainichi Shimbun headline translated. I had used DeepSeek, ChatGPT, and LMArena and simply chose what was to my eyes the most informative, comprehensive one. Given the innate subjectivity, what would be best practice? Including the best two, three, or four? kencf0618 (talk) 01:55, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Translating a headline imho isn't a big enough issue for an article-level cleanup banner, although it is best if someone fluent in Japanese can double-check it. Citing ChatGPT as a source for the translation isn't needed. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 01:59, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

@Peetel Was the machine-translated headline the only reason you added the LLM tag? If so, that tag is usually and was created for substantial portions of the article's text being AI-generated, not for foreign-language sources being machine-translated, especially not just a headline. Aaron Liu (talk) 02:03, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

I added that based on the unabridged chatgpt citation, I assumed a wide section was LLM generated. Apologies if this is wrong, feel free to remove. Peetel (talk) 08:42, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

My Newspaper information not show inwikipedia

Saurashtra Update Weekly Newspaper has been published regularly for the last 10 years and its owner, printer, and editor are Mr. Isabhai Hussainbhai Darvesh (Yusufbhai), 2409:40C1:100A:EEBC:7427:C2FF:FEF7:910F (talk) 10:13, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a database of things that exist. There are criteria for inclusion, which we call notability. A Wikipedia article about a newspaper or any business must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about it, showing how it is a notable organization. Writing a new article is very challenging, and it's harder even with a conflict of interest and paid status as you would have with your newspaper. 331dot (talk) 10:18, 6 July 2025 (UTC)