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Chinese exonyms

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Perhaps this should be moved to Chinese Wikipedia as it would be more notable there? Sebirkhan (talk) 15:23, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy keep: Per WP:SKCRIT #3, entirely erroneous nomination without a valid rationale. The article isn't even that bad, could use some work sure, but so can everything else. MediaKyle (talk) 20:10, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This topic meets WP:GNG as there are multiple independent sources covering Chinese exonyms as a topic of genuine study and academic interest (i.e. history, methodology and analysis of the translation of foreign place names into Chinese). This goes far beyond a simple glossary of terms and/or translations. Here are a few of these sources in English -- many more exist in Chinese which can be seen from the citations in these sources:
Thus I believe a keep is warranted. Richard Yetalk 13:50, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Guandou Subdistrict

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Doesn't meet WP:NTOWN, doesn't seem to have non-trivial coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. Smallangryplanet (talk) 09:16, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese boot camps

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WP:STARTOVER. Also, this is the same recycled material that banned WP:SPA socks have been pushing at Boot camp (correctional) for some time such as DonaldJuniorTrump, Truthpedic, Liberty666, and Free258. Amigao (talk) 21:43, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:51, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Keep – This article covers a notable and widely reported phenomenon in modern China: the rise of privately run "boot camps" or "special training schools" (特训学校) aimed at treating internet addiction, behavioral problems, and providing so-called employment opportunities. This is a real-world issue that has received sustained coverage in independent, reliable sources, including:
    The New York Times
    The Guardian
    CNN
    Sixth Tone
    China Daily
    China Youth Daily (中国青年报)
    Caixin
    These institutions have drawn significant domestic and international scrutiny due to alleged human rights abuses, fatalities, and widespread controversy about their treatment methods, particularly toward minors. There is a clear distinction between these boot camps and general military schools or vocational training centers.
    The article’s topic meets Wikipedia’s General Notability Guidelines (GNG), with multiple sources providing in-depth, independent coverage over many years. The issue has also influenced public policy, with government crackdowns and legal reforms related to such facilities.
    Finally, while the article can be improved in tone or sourcing, these are editing concerns—not reasons for deletion. The topic is encyclopedic, notable, and verifiable. Therefore, the article should be retained and improved, not removed. Korpace (talk) 02:47, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Struck comment from blocked sock. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 20:05, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, looks LLM-generated. Geschichte (talk) 07:54, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Speedy delete as a G5. I've spot checked a few sources and the complete and utter absence of WP:TSI make explosives the only appropriate way to deal with this. On the other hand, even if this is deleted, we need not start entirely from scratch, for we have entirely pre-GPT content covering the topic area! (Some such content predates Transformers entirely, but significantly lesser in extent, only 3 sentences totalling 68 words) More extensive than the zhwiki article even, at least at first glance. It probably still needs editing for tone and style, but at least is probably less likely to be made up wholesale. If editors do choose to spin out content from the other article, I would suggest internet addiction camp is likely a more recognisable title in english. Also, needless to say, editing that content with AI slop to expand it after (or before for that matter) a spin out is no bueno, and if anyone does that they should probably be blocked for WP:DE. You know, in case this sparks any ideas. Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:48, 29 June 2025 (UTC) (Update now that they're a confirmed sock. Alpha3031 (t • c) 08:21, 30 June 2025 (UTC))[reply]
  • Delete: per nom Laura240406 (talk) 13:53, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete and recreate as Internet addiction camp. Agreed that this looks LLM-generated and there are WP:TSI issues (as well as citing sources that don't even seem to exist). But the topic itself clearly meets WP:GNG: see e.g. [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]. Astaire (talk) 15:32, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Draftify. While I agree that this would ordinarily be a WP:TNT deletion given the rampant issues with misrepresentation of sources (WP:TSI) from the few spot checks that I did, there are genuinely a host of useful sources and the topic seems to meet WP:GNG, especially considering that only English-language sources are currently present and there would undoubtedly be multiple more in Chinese. Drafting it would allow someone to either put in the extensive time to rewrite it so it's fit for mainspace, or allow someone wanting to start from scratch to use its reflist. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 17:54, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Per others as WP:LLM slop created by a sockpuppet. I disagree with Patar's draftify justification because source lists compiled by LLM's can be completely made up, irrelevent, or unreliable for Wikipedia's purposes (ex. one of the sources in article is Global Times which is deprecated) Jumpytoo Talk 20:48, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Just because LLMs can hallucinate sources or use poor sources doesn't mean that every LLM-found source falls into those categories. Yes, Global Times is deprecated, but the article exists and is hardly out of line with the multiple other existing reliable sources that cover the abuses in the industry: including BBC [14], Guardian [15], ABC [16], CNN [17], Washington Post [18], Reuters [19], Hindustan Times [20], Sixth Tone [21][22], Mashable [23], Quartz [24], Washington Times [25], VOA [26]. With a non-LLM, more salvageable article, that's an easy WP:GNG pass. If someone wants to work on an article, it's something to work with. If no one does, it'll be gone in half a year via WP:G13 anyway. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 01:34, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've now spun out a half assed copy of the stuff we had at Internet addiction disorder, which I think would make a better starting point for expansion than the LLM junk. Alpha3031 (t • c) 08:21, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Most of it is written by student editors from UChi by the way (Ashitakarl and Q1N9), so good job to them I guess. Saves me from doing much actual work. Alpha3031 (t • c) 08:33, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for doing this - looks a lot better. Astaire (talk) 18:26, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Theses LLM-generated articles are hideous and need to all be deleted both based on policy and on a dire need to save Wikipedia from that dreck. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Note: Please do not post large amounts of content in an AFD discussion, it interrupts the flow of the conversation. Post a diff or link to the content. Liz Read! Talk! 21:13, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wang Zixiang

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WP:PROD reversed with summary "played fully pro games and abroad and has sources like...[sources]". By the age of 27 he has played two "fully pro" games, in China's second division. He did play abroad, but the writing "Spanish La Liga side Granada after training with Udinese in the Italian Serie A and trialing for Dutch club Vitesse" is missing the mark - those clubs' first teams play in those divisions, but he was on Granada's under-19 side. The sources provided in the edit summary are interviews from 2017, when he was a youth player. In my local newspaper I could find interviews with teenagers on the same topic, but that doesn't mean they're notable players. There's a genre of interest in certain youth team stars who never made it - such as Sonny Pike - but I don't think being passed over by Granada matches that level. Unknown Temptation (talk) 16:28, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - @Das osmnezz mentioned some sources when deproded. Svartner (talk) 17:28, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The sources mentioned are [27], [28] and [29]. It would be helpful if they had been kept in the nomination statement, rather than replaced with [sources], so they can be evaluated by participants. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:51, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

- [30] ("If it weren't for his 189cm height, Wang Zixiang, who has been busy following his parents and staff, would be easily ignored as a "runner". Unlike many choleric football teenagers, he was taken to the Workers' Stadium by his father to cheer for Guoan at the age of 4... Wang Zixiang's love for football came from his father. His father, Wang Aijun, was a die-hard and loyal football fan whose childhood dream was to become a professional player. Although he did not achieve his dream due to some unforeseen circumstances, Wang Aijun immediately placed his hopes on his son - watching Guoan at the Workers' Stadium was the first time Wang Zixiang came into contact with football. When Wang Zixiang was 5 years old, his father sent him to Balizhuang Central Primary School in Chaoyang District to play football. Former Guoan player Shao Jiayi started his football career here. Because the school was a boarding school, the young son could not adapt to the pain of not seeing his parents. Especially when he left home for the first time to go to school, Wang Zixiang kept hugging his parents' legs and cried and refused to let go. Fortunately, this period of time, which he described as "very unhappy", "always crying and making a fuss", and "unable to sleep", did not last too long. Two years later, Wang Zixiang joined the Beijing Cross-Country Football Club, and it was here that his football career underwent the first major change. In September 2008, before a game of the team, due to the absence of the goalkeeper for some reason, the tall Wang Zixiang was temporarily appointed as the goalkeeper by Coach Zhao... After training in the cross-country club, Wang Zixiang went to Shanghai to join the Lucky Star Club in September 2010. There, he got the opportunity to be selected for the Chinese youth team with his good performance. After that, Wang Zixiang also briefly trained and played with Shanghai Shenhua and Beijing Guoan. Although he just turned 18 a month ago, this Beijing boy has a very rich youth training resume. Last November, Wang Zixiang was accepted as a closed disciple by Beijing football legend Li Songhai. In the latter's opinion... At present, in the 1997 and 1998 age group where Wang Zixiang is, the one who can be called the number one goalkeeper in China should be the young player Zhang Yan who has just been transferred to the Beijing Guoan first team. In many competitions that the national youth team participated in last year, he played for the country as the main goalkeeper. Wang Zixiang is no stranger to Zhang Yan. The two had trained and played together in the Guoan echelon a few months ago. Unlike Wang Zixiang who spent his life in Beijing and Shanghai, Zhang Yan's youth training career represents the growth experience of most young players in China. They graduated from key football schools and then entered the professional club echelon, waiting for the opportunity to become a professional player. However, due to the incomplete youth training system in many cities in China and even in the country as a whole, not to mention substitutes, even the main players can hardly compete with amateur teenagers in Japan and South Korea. Therefore, in order to improve their competition experience, young people like Wang Zixiang have to change teams frequently - in order to have a stable competition position, they even have to come to a strange city to fight. Many years ago, Wang Aijun sent Wang Zixiang to Shanghai to play football because he didn't want his son to only serve as a substitute for Zhang Yan... this young man who idolizes Zeng Cheng and Buffon")

- [31] ("Wang Zixiang, a Beijing native born in 1998. He was selected for the 1998 national youth team and played in the 2014 Asian Youth Championship. Wang Zixiang has been seeking to study abroad. At the end of 2015, he went to the Dutch Eredivisie for a trial. In March 2016, he trained with the Udinese first team for nearly three months. On August 8, 2016, he joined Granada. Although he is a U19 player, he is currently training with the B team")

- [32] ("Who is Wang Zixiang?... He once played for Shanghai Lucky Star Football Club and was a substitute goalkeeper in the 97/98 age group. He first learned football in a well-known cross-country football club in Beijing. Because of his tall stature, he temporarily played as a goalkeeper, and then played goalkeeper until he entered the football echelon. With the help of the cooperation between desports and the Italian Pozzo family, Wang Zixiang got the opportunity to play football in Italy. Wang Zixiang will first receive top European goalkeeper technical training in Udinese in Serie A, and then he will have the opportunity to join La Liga and the Premier League depending on the actual situation. He will become the second Chinese goalkeeper to experience the atmosphere of Serie A football after the current national goalkeeper Wang Dalei")

- [33]

- among many more Chinese and Spanish sources. Again, on top of that he has made fully pro league appearances and was clearly considered a top Chinese goalkeeping prospect who played abroad. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 06:19, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please improve the article by adding sources and accomoanying prose, and ping me, and I'll re-visit per WP:HEY. GiantSnowman 07:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't matter what the state of the article is if the sources fail our guidelines. JoelleJay (talk) 17:53, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - The sources above are covered by WP:YOUNGATH. Sources that tell us about a young hopeful who is off to play European football do not speak to the notability of a football player. We would need more sources over an extended period. These sources are from 8 or 9 years ago. If the young hopeful became a notable footballer, there would be more coverage of this. What happened after he got to Europe? Why do we have no coverage of that? 18 year old Chinese hopeful travels to Europe is not an encyclopaedic article, it's a human interest story for the Chinese market. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:42, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Fails GNG Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:00, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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International Coordination of Revolutionary Parties and Organizations

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International Coordination of Revolutionary Parties and Organizations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Since this article was created in 2011, it has been based almost entirely on citations to sources either from the ICOR itself or from its affiliate members. Attempts to find coverage in reliable secondary source turned up very little. Neither of the cited secondary sources in this article provide significant coverage, only giving the ICOR a passing reference in the wider context of another subject. A cursory Google Scholar search brought up a few self-published Marxist word documents, and one book about German political parties that only mentions the ICOR in passing.

As I have been unable to find significant coverage of this international organisation in reliable sources, and as notability is not inherited from any of its affiliated organisations, I do not think this meets the notability criteria for organisations and am nominating it for deletion. Grnrchst (talk) 09:26, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Point of Consideration. I believe the article should be kept, but to those in-favor of deletion, I think there's a solid case to be made that the page should be merged with the Marxist–Leninist Party of Germany article, given that they seem to be the driving force behind most of the organizations actions and statements, as well as the fact that Stefan Engel (or his wife), the former chairman of MLPD, comes up almost everywhere ICOR does Castroonthemoon (talk) 17:43, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Huayi Publishing House

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Reads like a press release and it may be better to WP:STARTOVER. Amigao (talk) 01:15, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
    1. Lei, Ben 雷奔 (2001). "书业 "黑马" 细说生意经——华艺出版社的陋巷传奇" [Publishing Industry 'Dark Horse' Shares Business Secrets — The Alleyway Legend of Huayi Publishing House]. 文化月刊 [Cultural Monthly] (in Chinese).

      This is a citation from Google Scholar.

    2. "华艺出版社：我们是怎样包装崔永元(1)" [Huayi Publishing: How We Packaged Cui Yongyuan (Part 1)]. china.com [zh] (in Chinese). 2001-07-30. Archived from the original on 2007-02-03. Retrieved 2025-06-15.

      The article notes: "华艺出版社因成功包装名人图书而在出版界享有盛誉。虽然，金丽红认为，华艺出版的大多数书并不是名人书；但事实上，华艺成功推出了不少名人书，如吴小莉的《足音》、敬一丹的《声音》、白岩松的《痛并快乐着》等，还有姜文、徐静蕾、高峰等人的书，而且，这些图书几乎是推出一本畅销一本。另外，著名作家如刘心武、王朔、王蒙、刘震云等人的重要著作，差不多也都是华艺率先推出的。" From Google Translate: "Huayi Publishing House enjoys a good reputation in the publishing industry for its successful packaging of celebrity books. Although Jin Lihong believes that most of the books published by Huayi are not celebrity books; in fact, Huayi has successfully launched many celebrity books, such as Wu Xiaoli's Footworks, Jing Yidan's Voice, Bai Yansong's Pain and Happiness, etc., as well as books by Jiang Wen, Xu Jinglei, Gao Feng and others, and these pictures The book is almost a best-selling book. In addition, the important works of famous writers such as Liu Xinwu, Wang Shuo, Wang Meng, Liu Zhenyun and others are almost all pioneered by Huayi."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Huayi Publishing House (simplified Chinese: 华艺出版社; traditional Chinese: 華藝出版社) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 11:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Chen Zhehan

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No sources to support notability Stvbastian (talk) 15:42, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Yuquanying

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Non-notable intersection. In attempting to source this article, I was unable to find any valid sources about this particular intersection, much less anything that would contribute to notability. Garsh (talk) 23:44, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It seems odd to me that the article is focused on an intersection. Isn't Yuquanying a major road, not just an intersection? (There seem to be many articles about the road and building complexes on the road via Google News.) Cielquiparle (talk) 19:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, no evidence of notability and I couldn't find sources to pass WP:GNG. Suonii180 (talk) 09:05, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, no indication of notability. Jeepday (talk) 11:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect to Yuquanying Subdistrict. The Chinese name here is 玉泉营, which seems to refer to a variety of topics in that area, but I think all can be covered at the main subdistrict article. That article could be expanded with this source, which covers the history of the area in depth, though its reliability could be debated [40]. Toadspike [Talk] 11:36, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per WP:GEOLAND. Sources have been added, focus has been expanded to mention Yuquanying's 800 years of history as one of the 18 floricultural villages of the Fengtai district of Beijing before becoming the site of a major highway intersection and overpass. (OK I'm still in the process of untangling how best to cite and/or edit that section, which could still take several days as I try to work on other things.) Sincerely appreciate the pointer to the administrative subdistrict page provided by Toadspike (not to mention their spirit of investigation which is what makes these geography AfD puzzles interesting), but the modern administrative subdistrict article can remain separate from the Yuquanying article about the history of the village since the Jin dynasty. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:01, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I have mixed feelings about this – I considered expanding this article, but decided that Yuquanying Subdistrict, an article about a populated place, is more suitable for this information. I don't mean to be rude, but you have effectively hijacked this article and changed its topic to one that we already cover elsewhere. Toadspike [Talk] 09:56, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The 800-year history of the village of Yuquanying, where there is now also a highway overpass, is not covered at all in the current article about Yuquanying Subdistrict, which focuses on an administrative region established in 2021. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:18, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I think we can only have one topic claiming notablity per GEOLAND on this, and here it should be the legally-recognized subdistrict. Of the three sources you link, the first is about the subdistrict, the second lists Yuquanying among other subdistricts like Majiapu Subdistrict and some places that don't seem to have legal recognition, and the third is a mathematical analysis of traffic at the intersection that doesn't actually tell us anything about the intersection. I am not convinced this shows the need for a split from the main subdistrict article. Toadspike [Talk] 10:42, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure, we can still keep looking for more sources; those were just indicative and as I said, it's still a work in progress. The first source actually leads with the modern Yuquanying subdistrict but the third paragraph is about the historical village of Yuquanying and its 800-year history as a flower town. The second source is interesting because it references the historical (centuries-old) concept of the 18 villages of Fengtai district, which is discussed elsewhere in books and suggests a fruitful line of research, and also provides more context about the floricultural history of the region. (Actually not sure what to do with "Beijing Yuquanying highway" in the third source; not even sure if it's actually about the actual intersection or overpass. Is it? Very unclear from looking at the article.) Anyway Wikipedia is full of multiple articles about the same geographic location. We could easily keep splitting this article into sub-topics and at minimum, Yuquanying would have to be retained as a disambiguation page. (And yes, you are correct: it is more polite to assume good faith per WP:AGF.) Cielquiparle (talk) 12:51, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:08, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge: per Toadspike, I don't see a convincing argument for keeping both Yuquanying Subdistrict and Yuquanying, the history part of this article, which I guess was added post-nom, can be put in the subdistrict article and this can redirect there. Moritoriko (talk) 09:43, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not even clear that the administrative region is geographically in the same place as the old village! In fact, it subsumes several old neighbouring villages, possibly. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:50, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Chinese geography and naming is a bit outside my wheelhouse, but would you say it is likely that the name of the subdistrict was chosen because of the old village? Doing further research on the "18 villages of Fengtai" is not showing me much of anything either, perhaps that information should be put in that article instead. Moritoriko (talk) 11:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    This is exactly the kind of assumption that leads to misinformation on Wikipedia, particularly with regard to geographical history. Every claim made on Wikipedia should be verifiable per WP:V. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That is why I am asking you if this is true, and doing it in the AfD instead of putting it in the article. I'm not going to put unverified information out there >( Moritoriko (talk) 05:00, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Comment. At minimum, this discussion could be closed as no consensus and if other editors seriously want to pursue a merge discussion, they can start one, though I remain unconvinced from the arguments made above that the now significantly expanded and referenced Yuquanying (covering the 800-year history of Yuquanying village and the surrounding area through the early 21st century) should be merged into the Yuquanying Subdistrict, an article focused on the governance and boundaries of a modern administrative region that was created in 2021. Also, WP:HEY. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:30, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Going through the sources added since my last comment here:
    • [41] mentions Yuquanying market once, among a list of others. Not SIGCOV.
    • [42] mentions that a segment of the Beijing–Kaifeng highway starts at the Yuquanying interchange. Not sigcov.
    • [43] is about the local government of Yuquanying Subdistrict, which already has its own article.
    • [44] Two photos of Yuquanying, with captions that tell us nothing about the place. Not sigcov.
    • [45] mentions Yuquanying Flower Market among a list of others, alongside its opening hours. This is not sigcov; often such coverage promoting businesses/events is also not considered independent.
    • [46] is a passing mention, not sigcov, though it does provide the interesting factoid that the Yuquanying Flower Market was "[Beijing's] largest potted flower wholesale market" at the time (in 2003).
    • [47] is a government report on a fire at a business (玉泉营环岛家具城, 'Yuquanying Roundabout Furniture City'), not really about the town.
    The article Yuquanying Subdistrict doesn't have to meet the GNG because it meets NPLACE, but we can't make the same carveout twice for the same place. I remain unconvinced that we need two separate articles and strongly stand by my original position that these articles should be merged. Toadspike [Talk] 14:33, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The claim that "We can't make the same carveout twice for the same place" is not policy – it actually demonstrates a lack of familiarity with the broader landscape of Geography and History articles across Wikipedia. Wikipedia is vast though, and there is no deadline, so I would recommend joining up with more WikiProjects where you might get exposed to a larger volume of articles. (I find my own perspective changes all the time, the more I read and the more I edit and the more I participate across different WikiProjects.) Cielquiparle (talk) 04:42, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Relisting comment: We've only got one editor in favour of keeping the article, but it's been expanded considerably since the delete !votes, so we don't really have consensus for anything else, either. Suonii180, Jeepday, do you care to revise your positions? Anyone else have an opinion on whether this is a suitable merge target?
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  • Merge with Yuquanying Subdistrict. The subject passes WP:GEOLAND, but there's no reason to have two articles about the same subdistrict.--DesiMoore (talk) 16:07, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    How do we know they are the same geographic coordinates? The problem is, we don't. It's the highway in particular, which was the genesis of this article, which I'm uncertain actually is located within, or managed by, the administrative subdistrict itself. The ancient village itself was likely also only a subset of the modern Yuquanying subdistrict, which now subsumes many neighbouring villages as well. Anyway, I think it's pretty clear this discussion is essentially ending up as no consensus and that the merge discussion should continue separately if needed outside of AfD, with proper evidence rather than casual AfD !voting. Cielquiparle (talk) 18:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]



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Independent Schools Foundation Academy

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I tagged this article about an independent school with notability concerns in 2023. I have now carried out WP:BEFORE and added a reference to a book which has half a sentence about the school; but I have not found significant coverage in independent secondary sources. I don't think the school meets WP:GNG or WP:NCORP, although I am aware I may be missing sources in Chinese. It was established in 2000 or 2003, so it may be WP:TOOSOON for notability to be demonstrated. Possible redirect targets: List of secondary schools in Hong Kong and the founder, Charles K. Kao. Tacyarg (talk) 20:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Schools, which says:

    All universities, colleges and schools, including high schools, middle schools, primary (elementary) schools, and schools that only provide a support to mainstream education must either satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations, the general notability guideline, or both. For-profit educational organizations and institutions are considered commercial organizations and must satisfy those criteria. (See also WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES)

    Sources
    1. Lok, Sau Ling 駱秀玲 (2023-03-20). 3月29日入學簡介會接受登記 "【小一簡介會】全港最貴私校弘立書院　3月29日入學簡介會接受登記" [[Primary One Information Session] Hong Kong's Most Expensive Private School, Independent Schools Foundation Academy (ISF Academy), Opens Registration for 29 March Admission Briefing]. Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). Archived from 3月29日入學簡介會接受登記 the original on 2025-06-28. Retrieved 2025-06-28.

      The article notes: "直資及私立小學陸續開始2024/25學年的報名程序，其中「光纖之父」高錕有份創校、有全港最貴私校之稱的弘立書院，即將於3月29日舉辦小一入學簡介會。弘立書院是一所獲國際認證的國際文憑（IB）世界學校，家長可透過簡介會了解學校的教學理念、課程特色、招收政策及程序等。弘立書院現提供5年制IB-MYP國際文憑中學課程，以及兩年制IB-DP國際文憑大學預科課程。近年該校IB成績優異，去年合格率達到100%，"

      From Google Translate: "Direct Subsidy and private primary schools have started the registration process for the 2024/25 school year. Among them, Independent Schools Foundation Academy, which was co-founded by "the father of optical fiber" Charles Kao and is known as the most expensive private school in Hong Kong, will hold a primary one admission briefing on 29 March. Independent Schools Foundation Academy is an internationally recognized International Baccalaureate (IB) world school. Parents can learn about the school's teaching philosophy, curriculum features, admission policies and procedures through the briefing. Independent Schools Foundation Academy currently offers a five-year IB-MYP International Baccalaureate Middle School Program and a two-year IB-DP International Baccalaureate University Preparatory Program. In recent years, the school's IB results have been excellent. Last year, the pass rate reached 100%."

    2. Lok, Sau Ling 駱秀玲 (2023-07-07). 畢業生獲劍橋牛津取錄 "【IB狀元】弘立書院誕1狀元6榜眼探花　畢業生獲劍橋牛津取錄" [[IB Top Scorers] ISF Academy Produces 1 Perfect Scorer and 6 High Achievers; Graduates Admitted to Cambridge and Oxford]. Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). Archived from 畢業生獲劍橋牛津取錄 the original on 2025-06-28. Retrieved 2025-06-28.

      The article notes: "國際文憑大學預科課程（IBDP）昨日（6日）放榜，私立一條龍學校弘立書院誕生一名考獲45分滿分的狀元，另有6名學生取得44或43分。該校今年有68名學生參加IB考試，當中42%奪40分或以上的成績，獲得雙語文憑的弘立學生高達72%。弘立是一所獲國際認證、非牟利、私立、獨立的國際文憑世界學校，提供中、英雙語沉浸式課程。校方指2023年畢業班已收到來自全球123間專上學府、超過465份錄取通知書，其中包括常春藤盟校的布朗大學、哥倫比亞大學、康奈爾大學及賓夕法尼亞大學；在美國亦有喬治亞理工學院、約翰．霍普金斯大學、紐約大學、西北大學、加州大學、芝加哥大學、密歇根大學、卡內基美隆大學、南加州大學、聖母大學及波士頓大學。"

      From Google Translate: "The results of the International Baccalaureate University Preparatory Program (IBDP) were released yesterday (6) In addition to the IB examination, 42% of them scored 40 points or more, and up to 72% of Hongli students received bilingual diplomas Independent Schools Foundation Academy is an internationally certified, non-profit, private, independent international diploma world school, offering bilingualism in Chinese and English The graduating class of 2023 has received more than 465 admissions from 123 colleges and universities, including Ivy League universities, Brown University, Columbia University, Cornell University and the University of Pennsylvania."

    3. "五年計畫八大路向 弘立加強中西融合" [Five-Year Plan Outlines Eight Key Directions: ISF Academy to Strengthen Integration of Chinese and Western Cultures]. Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 2019-09-30. p. F4.

      The article notes: "弘立書院成立於二○○三年，已故諾貝爾物理學獎得主高錕教授為其主要的創辦人之一。該校辦學團體推出最新的五年策略規劃，《親子王》特別跟該校總校長查永茂博士（Dr Malcolm Pritchard）作一專訪，了解當中的八大項目。"

      From Google Translate: "Independent Schools Foundation Academy was established in 2003. The late Nobel Prize winner in Physics Professor Charles Kao was one of its main founders. The school's management group has launched the latest five-year strategic plan. "Parenting King" interviewed Dr. Malcolm Pritchard, the school's principal, to learn about the eight major projects."

    4. Chan, Hang 陳恆 (2019-06-24). "深耕八德一智厚植傳統文化－香港弘立書院探訪小記" [Cultivating the Eight Virtues and One Wisdom to Deepen Traditional Culture – A Brief Visit to ISF Academy in Hong Kong]. Wen Wei Po (in Chinese). p. A7.

      The article notes: "香港弘立書院為本港已故諾貝爾獎得主高鱘院士等倡議創辦，建校雖時間不長，但很受本港家長青睞。我於五年前慕名探訪了該書院，受到總校長查永茂博士的熱情接待，至今記憶猶新的是該校深耕“八德一智”，厚植中國傳統文化的獨特辦學理念。 書院位於港島南，校園四周林木扶疏，碧草茵茵，有鳥鳴蟲唱，無車馬喧囂，環境靜穆，堂舍敞亮，確是莘莘學子求知問學的好處所。... 書院設有「中國文化中心」，建造家校融合的社區，定期邀請國學名家講授中國傳統文化。書院也開闢了一個充滿中國古代書院風格，擁有典藏經典文獻、學習和研究功能的學術機構，命名為“書院中的書院”，開設了中國古代經典文、史、哲、詩、詞、曲等課程"

      From Google Translate: "Hong Kong Independent Schools Foundation Academy was founded by the late Hong Kong Nobel Prize winner Academician Gao Xun and others. Although the school was established not long ago, it is very popular among Hong Kong parents. I visited the college five years ago and was warmly received by the principal, Dr. Cha Yongmao. What I still remember is the school's unique educational philosophy of deeply cultivating the "Eight Virtues and One Wisdom" and embedding Chinese traditional culture. The college is located in the south of Hong Kong Island. The campus is surrounded by lush trees and green grass. There are birds singing and insects singing. There is no noise of cars and horses. The environment is quiet and the halls are bright. It is indeed a good place for students to seek knowledge and learn. ... The college has a "Chinese Cultural Center" to build a community where families and schools are integrated, and regularly invites famous Chinese scholars to teach Chinese traditional culture. The college has also opened up an academic institution full of the style of ancient Chinese academies, with classic documents, learning and research functions, named "College in the College", and has opened courses in ancient Chinese classics such as literature, history, philosophy, poetry, lyrics, and music."

    5. "弘立建分子生物實驗室 可做大學規格科研" [ISF Academy Builds Molecular Biology Lab Capable of University-Level Research]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). 2019-01-21. Archived from the original on 2025-06-28. Retrieved 2025-06-28.

      The article notes: "中學生已有機會做具大學規格的科研實驗，已故「光纖之父」高錕有份創辦的私立獨立學校弘立書院，本學年新建「分子生物實驗室」，由中學生構思分子生物相關實驗，題材可圍繞不同生物的細菌，由包括香港大學理學院前院長梁志清在內的團隊從旁指導。有學生化驗了馬、企鵝的腸道細菌，發現了具生物技術潛在用途的新型細菌。位於薄扶林的「一條龍」學校，開辦非本地課程的弘立書院，2018/19學年成立「分子生物實驗室」，面積約1500平方呎。 ... 弘立書院中、小學部有逾1800多名學生。"

      From Google Translate: "Secondary school students have the opportunity to conduct scientific research experiments with university standards. The private independent school Independent Schools Foundation Academy, which was co-founded by the late "Father of Fiber Optics" Charles Kao, has built a new "Molecular Biology Laboratory" this school year. Secondary school students can conceive molecular biology-related experiments. The subject matter can be around bacteria of different organisms, and a team including Liang Zhiqing, former Dean of the Faculty of Science of the University of Hong Kong, will provide guidance. Some students tested the intestinal bacteria of horses and penguins and found new bacteria with potential uses in biotechnology. Independent Schools Foundation Academy, a "one-stop" school located in Pokfulam, which offers non-local courses, established a "Molecular Biology Laboratory" in the 2018/19 school year, with an area of about 1,500 square feet. ... Independent Schools Foundation Academy has more than 1,800 students in the secondary and primary schools."

    6. "弘立書院15週年 高錕廣場開幕" [ISF Academy 15th Anniversary – Charles K. Kao Square Inaugurated]. Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 2018-11-18. p. A14.

      The article notes: "由已故諾貝爾物理學獎得獎學者高錕創辦、現址位於薄扶林鋼線灣的弘立書院，昨舉行建校十五週年慶典匯，剛完成重建的「高錟廣場」，亦在昨舉行開幕儀式。出席嘉賓有全國政協副主席董建華、教育局局長楊潤雄、高錕慈善基金主席高黃美芸、智立教育基金董事會主席黃匡源及弘立書院校監黃惠君等。"

      From Google Translate: "Founded by the late Nobel Prize-winning physicist Charles Kao, Hong Li College, currently located in Conveyor Bay, Pokfulam, held a celebration of its 15th anniversary yesterday. The newly rebuilt "Kao Po Plaza" also held an opening ceremony yesterday. Guests attending included Vice Chairman of the National Committee of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference Tung Chee-hwa, Secretary for Education Kevin Yeung, Chairman of the Charles Kao Charity Foundation Kao Huang Meiyun, Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Chi Li Education Foundation Huang Kuangyuan and Principal of Hong Li College Huang Huijun."

    7. "Independent Schools Foundation Academy". Tatler Asia. Archived from the original on 2025-06-28. Retrieved 2025-06-28.

      The article nots: "The Pok Fu Lam campus opened in 2007 on a 140,000sqft site. Classrooms have modular teaching spaces and a comprehensive IT system. There are two libraries, a gymnasium, basketball courts, a climbing wall, music practice rooms, art rooms, and a 500-seat dining hall. Additional facilities include a swimming pool, a performing arts centre, an auditorium, and an all-purpose ball court. ... Independent School Foundation Academy educates students in a Chinese-English bilingual environment, deeply rooted in Chinese culture and with a global understanding. ... Each year, the school's graduates receive close to 300 offers from over 100 universities and colleges around the world, including ..."

    There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Independent Schools Foundation Academy (traditional Chinese: 弘立書院; simplified Chinese: 广流书院) to pass Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".

    Cunard (talk) 23:49, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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