User talk:Fowler&fowler

India-related FPs I

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  Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle.
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  The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent.
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  The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats.
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  The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala.

India-related FPs II

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  The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands.
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  The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment.
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  The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts.
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  The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest.

India-related FPs III

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  A Toda tribal hut exemplifies Indian vernacular architecture.
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  Bangles on display in Bangalore India
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  A Sadhu and a picture of Siva in Kayasth Tola, Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh in Northern India
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  The pushkarani, or tank, located on the eastern side of Krishna temple in Hampi, Karnataka, the seat of the Vijayanagara Empire

India-related FPs IV

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  Large Gautama Buddha statue in Buddha Park of Ravangla, Sikkim
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  A Jain woman washes the feet of Bahubali Gomateswara at Shravanabelagola, Karnataka. The Bahubali idol is 18 metres (58 ft) high and is carved out of a single rock on top of a hill.
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  A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva
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  A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic.

India-related FPs V

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  Paintings at the Ajanta Caves in Aurangabad, Maharashtra, 6th century
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  The Agasthiyamalai range, constituting the southern end of the Western Ghats, as seen from the rainshadow region of the southwest monsoon in Tirunelveli, Tamil Nadu.
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  A beach off the Arabian Sea in Puvar, Kerala. The Arabian Sea is the northwestern region of the Indian Ocean, bounded by the Arabian and Indian peninsulas.
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  Flowing through its rocky terrain near Hampi is the Tungabhadra river, the major right bank tributary of the Krishna river, a peninsular river, which empties into the Bay of Bengal. The coracles, made of wicker, are traditionally covered with hide, their circular shape preventing them from overturning in rivers with rocky outcrops.

India-related FPs VI

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  The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller
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  An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010.
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  A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output.
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  A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day

India-related FPs VII

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  A bharatnatyam concert in 2014
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  A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh.
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  A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan
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  An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh

India-related FPs VIII

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  The tomb of Itmad Ud Daulah, Agra,
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  A Hindu bride
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  The interior of San Thome Basilica, Chennai, Tamil Nadu. Christianity is believed to have been introduced to India by the late 2nd century by Syriac-speaking Christians.
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  A Sikh pilgrim at the Harmandir Sahib, or Golden Temple, in Amritsar, Punjab

India-related Classic Pictures-I

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  A farmer in Rajasthan milks his cow. Milk is India's largest crop by economic value. Worldwide, as of 2011, India had the largest herds of buffalo and cattle, and was the largest producer of milk.
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  Indian agriculture dates from the period 7,000–6,000 BCE, employs two thirds of the national workforce, and is second in farm output worldwide. Above, a farmer works an ox-drawn plow in Kadmati, West Bengal.
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  Schoolchildren in Chambal, Madhya Pradesh eating a mid-day meal. The Mid-Day Meal Scheme attempts to lower rates of childhood malnutrition in India.
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  Cricket is the most popular game among India's masses. Shown here is an instance of street cricket.

India-related FPs IX

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  Asfi Masjid at the Bara Imambara complex, Lukcnow, India
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  Chhota Imambara, Lucknow, India
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  Taj Mahal mosque, Agra, India
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  Bangalore panorama

India-related FPs X

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  Red Weaver ant, Oecophylla smaragdina in Bangalore, India
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  Female Telamonia dimidiata in the Lalbagh Botanical gardens, Bangalore, India
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  Mysore Palace in the morning
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  Indian Olympic athlete, Irfan Kolothum Thodi

India-related FPs XI

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  Grammodes geometrica, Bangalore, India
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  Mumtaz Ahmed Khan founder of Al-Ameen Educational Society
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  Al-Ameen College of Pharmacy, Bangalore, India
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  Kumar Anish, Indian yoga specialist

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  Taj Mahal at the golden hour
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  Bara Imambara, Lucknow, India
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  Salman Khurshid, Indian politician belonging to the Indian National Congress
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  Indian palm squirrel, Bangalore, India

India-related FPs XIII

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  Odissi
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  Mohiniyattam
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  Kuchipudi
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  Arundhati Roy

India-related FPs XIV

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  Chandiroor Divakaran
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  Karnataka High Court, Bangalore
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  Dharmaraya Swamy Temple a Hindu temple in Bangalore
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  Bangalore Town Hall

Buddha related FPs I

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  Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945
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  17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background.
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  The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea.
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  Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554

Buddha related FPs II

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  Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand.
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  Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton
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  English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century
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  Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum

Things to do on 6/10/22

• Start the article Singrauli estate (see Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Cleaning_up_confusions_about_"Singrauli_State"
• Start something on the Ethnic fermented foods and beverages of the Darjeeling Hills, using

• Thapa, Namrata; Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (2020), "Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of Sikkim and Darjeeling Hills (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration)", in Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (ed.), Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of India: Science History and Culture, Singapore: Springer Nature, ISBN 978-981-15-1485-2 and
• Tamang, Jyoti P.; Sarkar, Prabir K; Hesseltine, Clifford W (1988). "Traditional Fermented Foods and Beverages of Darjeeling". Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture. 44 (4): 375–385. doi:10.1002/jsfa.2740440410.

• Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling.

My work on Wikipedia starting April 24, 2025

I have suffered an acute and unexpected personal loss. My work on Wikipedia for the foreseeable future will be restricted to (i) reverting edits that, in my assessment, are very obviously of undue weight and (ii) content work related to British India before the Indian rebellion of 1857. If I have reverted an edit, please trust that the revert was made in good faith and with the experience of my 18-year stint on Wikipedia. Open a thread on the article's talk page and attempt to establish a consensus for your edit. I won't edit war nor will I have the time or heart for talk page discussions, but perhaps other editors will step in. Please do not express your discontent or ask for clarity on my user talk page. Please give me space. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:20, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Some flowers, for condolence. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 15:06, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, @Joshua Jonathan: Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:16, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

My condolences and sympathies for you.🌹 MŠLQr (talk) 15:44, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you @MSLQr: Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:24, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

I'm really sorry to hear such a loss....Please Take Care. MŠLQr (talk) 02:28, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

@Joshua Jonathan: My wife was both a flower and animal lover. We have over a dozen animals in two homes. We planned to consolidate in 2026 by moving to a country house with ample space for the animals and gardening. But that, sadly, will not come to pass. It haunts me that it was so unexpected. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:25, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Oh, I'm really sorry to hear this! What an awfull loss. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:48, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

So sorry to hear your sad news. Deepest condolences and love to family and friends. DBaK (talk) 18:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you DBaK for your kind words. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:11, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Fowler, we've disagreed on many things, and I’ve accused you and your motives countless times. But today, I feel your pain, and I’m truly sorry this happened. This is not only heartbreaking — I have teary eyes as I write this. May her eternal soul rest in peace, wherever it is. I will also offer my prayers.

May you recover from this, stronger than before. I’ll be looking forward to arguing with you again once you return in full form.

"One day, all of us will perish — our names, our memories, everything. The only thing that will remain is our work, even if it is never recognised, or we are never recognised for it. And perhaps that’s the only solace we can find in the face of death."

Take care, brother. 2409:40C1:2E:3339:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 18:21, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Although I don't know who you are or our disagreements, I thank you User:2409:40C1:2E:3339:8000:0:0:0 for your heartfelt advice. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:14, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Being unexpected is terrible. My heart goes out to you. Doug Weller talk 18:50, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you Doug. It's a surreal time. Every kind word helps. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:17, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Take care, take time. CMD (talk) 17:29, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

I'm very sorry to hear this, Fowler. Bishonen | tålk 18:23, 24 April 2025 (UTC).

Thank you Bishonen. She was always amused that I took disputes on Wikipedia so seriously. Her favorite remark if she saw me typing away furiously was, "You got busted?" Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:47, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, CMD. Yes, time it will take. Soon after we were married, a relative, seeing my shiny wedding ring, asked if I had had it engraved on the inside as a form of identification. I replied, "Why would I? It's never coming off." Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:33, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

• My condolences Fowler, and lots of love. RegentsPark (comment) 18:59, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

  Thank you, RP. Although my wife never paid much attention to Wikipedia, everything I did here, including the decision to join in 2006, was made in her presence, or rather, with the confidence of her presence, whether near or far. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:56, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

I'm truly sorry for your loss, Fowler&fowler. Although we haven't interacted much, please know that I and other editors here deeply appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia for last 18 years, especially to the minefield of South Asian articles. Take all the time you need, and take good care of yourself. Sincerely, Sutyarashi (talk) 13:08, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your condolence and appreciation, @Sutyarashi: Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:48, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Take care @Fowler&fowler. Sorry for your loss. May they rest in peace. Akshaypatill (talk) 16:58, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your condolence, @Akshaypatill: Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:15, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that, Fowler. Please accept my deep condolences. Take care, dear. Satnam₂₄₀₈^(talk) 14:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you Satnam for your kind words. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

This reminds us all what the really important things are in life, and how little a dust-up at Wikipedia matters in the grand scheme of things. So very, very sorry at this incalculable loss, and wishing you centering and peace. Take good care of yourself, F&F, as you welcome those close to you to rally around and take good care of you as well. Best, Mathglot (talk) 18:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much @Mathglot: for such thoughtful commiseration. I will keep it in mind in this uncharted, and still painful, phase of my life. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:44, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

• So sorry to hear this! Look after yourself! Johnbod (talk) 03:52, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

  Thank you @Johnbod: I'm trying.

  Friends have reached out. In particular, one who I have known for 30 years, a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, who had studied trauma (and the still officially undiagnosed PTSD) among returning Vietnam vets at Fort Hood in the mid-1960s and two or three years later—on a two-year fellowship in Bristol—among parents of children killed in the Aberfan disaster, has been calling several times a week. Many of my symptoms, the wish to leave everything unchanged, the disheveled state the bedroom when the ambulance came, the dozens of hospital parking lot receipts collected over the following two weeks and scattered on the passenger seat of car and the floor below; and the haunting by the final scene in the critical care unit three hours after I had left her laughing and joking in her hospital room, he said are not uncommon among those who have experienced trauma. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:16, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Take care, Fowler. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:05, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:25, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Very Sorry to hear the latest update, Fowler and Fowler.LukeEmily (talk) 23:29, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, LukeEmily Fowler&fowler«Talk» 00:03, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Indeed. I just happened upon this. We haven't interacted in years, Fowler and Fowler, but I offer my condolences as well. Some speak of Wikipedia as distinct from "real life". But this reminds me once again that the Wikipedia community is as real as any other part of life. My heart goes out to you. Regards, Alan W (talk) 01:26, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you @Alan W: for your insight. To overcome grief, I feel, we have to marshal all our resources, and Wikipedia is very much one. I'm finding working on small, disregarded, topics to be strangely therapeutic. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:22, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

We do what we can. As Guettarda said, you are part of a community that cares about you. Regards, Alan W (talk) 01:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, Alan W, for that. A physician friend of mine struck a similar note, which I am quoting in the hopes that it might help others similarly stricken: "I am encouraged that you’re engaging with folks who are well wishers ... Our collective experience tells us that eventually the distress fever will break, no matter where you are in the grief cycle." Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:43, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm so sorry to hear this Fowler. I was involved in a discussion at the VS Naipaul article, and your absence from that conversation made me wonder how you were doing. I've experienced a lot of profound (and unexpected) losses, but even I can't imagine losing my spouse. Know you're part of a community here that cares about you. Guettarda (talk) 15:29, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you @Guettarda: for your words of solace. In my youth, I had obsessively read John Bowlby's Attachment and Loss trilogy. In the third volume, he and Colin Murray Parkes' had proposed four stages of grief: numbness, yearning and searching, disorganization and despair, and reorganization. They were probably not strictly linear anyway, but no amount of reading had prepared me for this event. And no theoretical knowledge beats simple words of comfort that ease distress. I am grateful for yours. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 01:39, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @Fowler&fowler I am deeply saddened by your loss. I hope that with time you find strength. Although I haven't interacted with you much, I've seen some discussions you were involved in, and I must say that over the past 18 years, you have been an outstanding member of the Wikipedia community. I can relate to the challenges, as I have only been active for two years and sometimes struggle to continue.

Best regards,

Rawn3012 (talk) 16:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, @Rawn3012:, for your kind words, both of condolence and appreciation. I wish you luck in your career on Wikipedia. I hope you will carve out a niche for yourself, however small. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 18:24, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

All the best, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 18:44, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Suggest removing comment

Hi Fowler, hope you are okay under the circumstances. I would suggest reverting your message here. It is quite personal to the IP, and doesn't progress discussion about the title. I would be interested to see what further points to consider emerge in the discussion, such as the order of the Supreme Court that has been raised. Best, CMD (talk) 10:26, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I've scratched it, as it has already been replied to, but I've also apologized. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:00, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. I hope the animals are okay. CMD (talk) 02:17, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

For the most part they are. This one, who is 18, and was most attached, is having a harder time. She and I give each other company. Thanks for asking. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 23:40, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 68

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 68, March–April 2025

In this issue we highlight two resource renewals, #EveryBookItsReader, a note about Phabricator, and, as always, a roundup of news and community items related to libraries and digital knowledge.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --10:19, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

story · music · places

Precious

Eight years!

Here I came to just deliver the annual reminder and came to know you more and more by details unfolding about the loss of part of your life. Looking at the green eyes of that cat. You will have to take care of the flowers and animals she loved, much more important than Wikipedia. I saw the May flowers with a friend last year who died in November. They just begin to bloom again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda, for reading the announcement above (and on my user page) and for such an empathic and evocative reply. My wife was not on Wikipedia, but an avid Facebook user. Maintaining her Facebook page has helped. Her dozens, if not hundreds, of friends have responded. My wife was funny and an instant hit in unstructured situations, able to carry on two or three conversations simultaneously. I now have to do some of that by imagining what she would have done, digging deep in my memory. Strangely, I have become more social. The animals, of course, were partly my responsibility even earlier. The animals are ageing—the oldest cats are 18, and the dogs, 15—so the rituals around their care keep me busy. I've now returned to Wikipedia, but hopefully, more focusedly, working on the topics I originally intended to work on. Like everyone else's, my time on Planet Earth has a "use by" date. Thank you again for such a beautiful message. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:25, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

PS I forgot to add, the yellow roses look beautiful. The leaves, too, are glistening. Thank you. I'm deeply sorry to hear about your friend's loss, Gerda.Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)