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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting fact). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, it.
Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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April 4 | 1 | 1 |
April 6 | 2 | 1 |
April 8 | 3 | 1 |
April 9 | 4 | 1 |
April 11 | 2 | |
April 12 | 2 | |
April 15 | 1 | |
April 17 | 2 | 1 |
April 18 | 7 | 2 |
April 19 | 1 | 1 |
April 20 | 2 | |
April 21 | 3 | 2 |
April 22 | 2 | 2 |
April 23 | 6 | 5 |
April 24 | 5 | 4 |
April 25 | 5 | 3 |
April 26 | 4 | 3 |
April 27 | 4 | 2 |
April 28 | 10 | 9 |
April 29 | 3 | 2 |
April 30 | 5 | 3 |
May 1 | 4 | 2 |
May 2 | 5 | 3 |
May 3 | 7 | 6 |
May 4 | 4 | 2 |
May 5 | 9 | 6 |
May 6 | 6 | 6 |
May 7 | 5 | 3 |
May 8 | 6 | 6 |
May 9 | 5 | 3 |
May 10 | 7 | 5 |
May 11 | 3 | 2 |
May 12 | 11 | 7 |
May 13 | 10 | 7 |
May 14 | 4 | 4 |
May 15 | 2 | 1 |
May 16 | 8 | 6 |
May 17 | 4 | 3 |
May 18 | 7 | 7 |
May 19 | 7 | 6 |
May 20 | 1 | |
May 21 | 2 | |
May 22 | 3 | |
May 23 | 1 | |
May 24 | 2 | |
May 25 | 1 | |
May 26 | 6 | |
May 27 | 8 | |
May 28 | 11 | |
May 29 | 3 | |
May 30 | 7 | |
May 31 | 4 | |
June 1 | 1 | |
June 2 | 3 | |
June 3 | 1 | |
June 4 | 6 | |
June 5 | ||
Total | 248 | 128 |
Last updated 08:03, 5 June 2025 UTC Current time is 14:44, 5 June 2025 UTC [refresh] |
Instructions for nominators
[edit]If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.
Frequently asked questions
[edit]How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
When will my nomination be reviewed?
This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below). Because of WP:DYKTIMEOUT, a nomination should be reviewed within two months since the reviewer/promoter may agree to reject and close an unpromoted hook after that time has passed.
Where is my hook?
If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.
If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.
Instructions for reviewers
[edit]Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.
To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:
- Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
- Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
- The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
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If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a lineArticle length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.
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showing you where you should put the comment. - Save the page.
- After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.
If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.
Advanced procedures
[edit]How to promote an accepted hook
[edit]At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
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Handy copy sources:
To [[TM:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
To [[TM:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
To [[TM:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
To [[TM:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
To [[TM:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
To [[TM:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
To [[TM:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
How to remove a rejected hook
[edit]- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
- In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line
{{DYKsubpage
with{{subst:DYKsubpage
, and replace|passed=
with|passed=no
. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.
How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
[edit]- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
[edit]Older nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on April 6
[edit]África Brasil
- ... that África Brasil was recorded with two drummers, two bassists, and many musicians that the producer had to take a crash program in the United States to learn how to record it?
- Source: https://revistacontinente.com.br/secoes/resenha/africa-brasil-1 "O produtor afirmou que ninguém queria encarar a missão de gravar um disco com duas baterias, dois contrabaixos e mais um monte de músicos. Mazzola foi, então, fazer um curso de especialização nos Estados Unidos e pediu para Jorge esperar sua volta ao Brasil e a importação de uma mesa de 16 canais. Acabou cumprindo, também, o papel de técnico de som, pois o profissional designado não conseguia dar conta do novo equipamento."
Cattos💭 00:57, 9 April 2025 (UTC).
Article expanded 5x within a week of nomination. QPQ good. Article is well-written and well-sourced, hook is interesting. Two things with the hook, though: it seems as if the hook should say "so many musicians", and the source and article seem to indicate "specialized course" rather than a crash course, as linked.~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 03:24, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro: Thanks for the review and sorry for the late response. I prefer not to use "so many musicians", since the emphasis is more on the unusual configuration (two drummers, two bassists, and others) than on quantity. Though I agree that "specialized course" could more match the source, I was wondering if it might be a little unclear to general readers. Would "recording course" or "technical course" work better for clarity while still staying true to the source? Cattos💭 19:20, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
- Butting in to agree with Darth Stabro here; as written the grammar is off. If you want to keep away from the "so many" phrasing, you'll need to revise it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:53, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro: Thanks for the review and sorry for the late response. I prefer not to use "so many musicians", since the emphasis is more on the unusual configuration (two drummers, two bassists, and others) than on quantity. Though I agree that "specialized course" could more match the source, I was wondering if it might be a little unclear to general readers. Would "recording course" or "technical course" work better for clarity while still staying true to the source? Cattos💭 19:20, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
My suggested grammatical improvement: "that as África Brasil was recorded with two drummers, two bassists, and many musicians the producer had to take a crash program in the United States to learn how to record it?" (taking out that)User:D Kirlston - talk 00:07, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro: Does D Kirlston's suggestion satisfy your concerns, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 14:52, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720: this still wouldn't satisfy the wording about a "crash program". @Cathodography: thoughts on this:
- ALT1 ... that as África Brasil was recorded with two drummers, two bassists, and many other musicians, the producer had to take a specialized recording course in the United States to learn how to mix it?
- ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 14:59, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro: I have no problems with ALT1. Cattos💭 17:48, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Cathodography, Darth Stabro, Premeditated Chaos, D Kirlston, and Z1720: Jumping in as it's been a week without comment; the hooks needs an end-of-sentence citation and I recommend trimming the exact quantities of musicians per WP:DYKTRIM.--Launchballer 21:39, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2 "That due to the different configuration of musicians in Africa Brasil, the producer had to take a specialized recording course in the United States to learn how to mix it?"User:D Kirlston - talk 17:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- The article still needs an end-of-sentence citation, and it doesn't even say what the training course was for, never mind 'he had to take it to learn how to mix the record'.--Launchballer 21:13, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2 "That due to the different configuration of musicians in Africa Brasil, the producer had to take a specialized recording course in the United States to learn how to mix it?"User:D Kirlston - talk 17:00, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Cathodography, Darth Stabro, Premeditated Chaos, D Kirlston, and Z1720: Jumping in as it's been a week without comment; the hooks needs an end-of-sentence citation and I recommend trimming the exact quantities of musicians per WP:DYKTRIM.--Launchballer 21:39, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro: I have no problems with ALT1. Cattos💭 17:48, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 8
[edit]3D mousepad

- ... that mousepads resembling breasts and buttocks (example pictured) have been sold for over $200?
Morgan695 (talk) 17:01, 8 April 2025 (UTC).
Overall, the article is new enough (created on 8 April), is long enough, is NPOV, hook is cited to a RS and QPQ is done. Earwig shows a "violation unlikely" result with 2.0% similarity. Interesting article/subject and one that I would've thought would have been covered on Wikipedia a long time ago already. Cattos💭 01:14, 10 April 2025 (UTC)
- There is currently a discussion about merging this article into mousepad at: Talk:Mousepad#Proposed_merge_of_3D_mousepad_into_Mousepad, Rjjiii (talk) 03:33, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
Just sending this to unapproved pending resolution of merge discussion. Kingsif (talk) 01:04, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is there any remedy here other than to wait out the potentially months it will take for this merge discussion to be resolved? It's been open for a few weeks now and discussion has been pretty limited. Morgan695 (talk) 17:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Royalty Pharma
- ... that by its own count, Royalty Pharma owns partial rights to 7 of the top 30 selling drugs in the United States?
- Source: "Cashing in on rising drug prices often unleashes an outcry from consumers and politicians. But a little-known private equity investor, Royalty Pharma, has built an unusual investment portfolio valued at $15 billion — it buys up the rights to royalties on future drug sales — while largely avoiding public controversy. By its own count, Royalty Pharma owns partial rights to seven of the 30 top-selling drugs in the United States, including giants like Humira, the arthritis treatment that is the single biggest-selling medication in America. And its deals have been getting larger." NY Times
Thriley (talk) 16:29, 13 April 2025 (UTC).
- QPQ done, article seems long enough and decently sourced, no copyvio concerns. However, per the original source and your excerpt, the claim is specifically By its own count, Royalty Pharma owns partial rights to seven of the 30 top-selling drugs in the United States (emphasis mine). Also, change "seven" to "7" for consistency per MOS:NUM. Change these here and in the article and I'll finish this review. Departure– (talk) 19:36, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Thank you for your review! I have made the changes you recommended. Thriley (talk) 04:33, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: Sorry for not getting to this sooner, I didn't get your ping. I'll take a second look at this tomorrow and more than likely support. Cheers! Departure– (talk) 02:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
Departure– (talk) 13:31, 21 May 2025 (UTC)Approved on all criteria (I've been busy with things on- and off-wiki, so sorry for the long wait time!), no copyvio and viable as moved to mainspace within a week of this nomination. Good to go!
- @Thriley: Actually, I'm going to scrutinize this a bit more. The hook itself is lifted directly out of the source. Do you have a fair rephrasing of it so the DYK hook itself isn't a copyvio concern? Departure– (talk) 13:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
@Thriley: Courtesy ping to reword the hook or propose an ALT, as your reviewer has unapproved. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:13, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am going to add a new hook later today. Best, Thriley (talk) 18:15, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: It has been several days since your last comment. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:07, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- I am going to add a new hook later today. Best, Thriley (talk) 18:15, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: Actually, I'm going to scrutinize this a bit more. The hook itself is lifted directly out of the source. Do you have a fair rephrasing of it so the DYK hook itself isn't a copyvio concern? Departure– (talk) 13:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: Sorry for not getting to this sooner, I didn't get your ping. I'll take a second look at this tomorrow and more than likely support. Cheers! Departure– (talk) 02:17, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Thank you for your review! I have made the changes you recommended. Thriley (talk) 04:33, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that a $3.3 billion purchase by Royalty Pharma gave the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation the "largest financial return ever" for a "charitable organization pursuing treatments for disease"? Thriley (talk) 18:07, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: Can you please give a short excerpt from the source? I can't access NYT. Departure– (talk) 18:12, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- "The payout is believed to be the largest financial return ever achieved for a charitable organization pursuing treatments for disease and is likely to encourage other patient advocacy groups to seek their own deals with pharmaceutical companies; a growing number are already doing so." [1] Thriley (talk) 18:26, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: Going to object to that one for two reasons. First, the source qualifies the claim with "it is believed" while both the hook and the article present it as fact. Second, even if that was certain when this article came out, it's been over a decade since this article and the information may not be true today. Do you have another hook? There's about 11 days to timeout, fyi. Departure– (talk) 18:37, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that a $3.3 billion drug royalties deal between Royalty Pharma and the Cystic Fibrosis Foundation was part of the foundation's model of venture philanthropy? Thriley (talk) 18:51, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- WP:DYKINT problem - that's hardly interesting or unusual as a hook should be. Got another? Departure– (talk) 19:10, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 9
[edit]Graham Rossini
- ... that Arizona State athletic director Graham Rossini became a fan of the university because he owned a baseball card of ASU player Mike Kelly? Source: https://news.asu.edu/20240523-sun-devil-community-qa-rossini-opportunities-challenges-ahead-asu-new-athletic-director
- ALT1: ... that Arizona State athletic director Graham Rossini got his start as a student assistant, with duties including washing baseball uniforms? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5524759/2024/05/29/arizona-state-graham-rossini-athletic-director/
- ALT2: ... that Arizona State athletic director Graham Rossini was described as "the tallest, skinniest catcher of all time" when he attempted to try out for the baseball team? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5524759/2024/05/29/arizona-state-graham-rossini-athletic-director/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/List of Scranton/Wilkes-Barre RailRiders Opening Day starting pitchers
- Comment: This is a first for me at DYK. I created this page as part of my disclosed paid editing work for ASU (User:Melted Brie). For DYK purposes, I am crediting my normal account as the sole author as I'm not doing DYK at ASU's direction and to streamline DYK credits.
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 06:40, 10 April 2025 (UTC).
Article looks good. Unfortunately I think being paid to create an article would disqualify it from appearing on DYK. Thriley (talk) 14:56, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fairly certain that's not true at all; that Brie was compensated for the article would mean it would deserve {{COI}}, which isn't a disqualifier per WP:DYKCOMPLETE.--Launchballer 16:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- It feels like a violation of the spirit of Wikipedia. If this is allowed, then all properly disclosed paid editors could use the front page to promote whatever they wanted. Thriley (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest raising this at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#ASU — disclosed paid editing. For what it's worth, Joe Matesic was passed no questions asked by BeanieFan11 (who I am purposefully not pinging per WP:CANVASS).--Launchballer 17:37, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, there's no blanket ban against DYK nominations where COI is involved. Things are treated on a case-by-case basis, rather than there being hard rules against it. We did have that issue with TonyTheTiger and his sister a while back, and that nomination was ultimately rejected, but again that nomination was discussed largely on its merits and not solely for being a COI. In this particular case, while Sammi did write the article on the direction of ASU, her nominating the article was done independently and was not a request by ASU. If it had been the latter, then perhaps this nomination would be inappropriate, but in this case, it's just an article she nominated that just happened to be one she made as part of her paid editing work, rather than her being paid to nominate it for DYK. I kinda doubt her ASU superiors even know what DYK is (please correct me if I'm wrong Sammi). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- That is correct on all counts. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 08:06, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, there's no blanket ban against DYK nominations where COI is involved. Things are treated on a case-by-case basis, rather than there being hard rules against it. We did have that issue with TonyTheTiger and his sister a while back, and that nomination was ultimately rejected, but again that nomination was discussed largely on its merits and not solely for being a COI. In this particular case, while Sammi did write the article on the direction of ASU, her nominating the article was done independently and was not a request by ASU. If it had been the latter, then perhaps this nomination would be inappropriate, but in this case, it's just an article she nominated that just happened to be one she made as part of her paid editing work, rather than her being paid to nominate it for DYK. I kinda doubt her ASU superiors even know what DYK is (please correct me if I'm wrong Sammi). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:38, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest raising this at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#ASU — disclosed paid editing. For what it's worth, Joe Matesic was passed no questions asked by BeanieFan11 (who I am purposefully not pinging per WP:CANVASS).--Launchballer 17:37, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- It feels like a violation of the spirit of Wikipedia. If this is allowed, then all properly disclosed paid editors could use the front page to promote whatever they wanted. Thriley (talk) 21:29, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fairly certain that's not true at all; that Brie was compensated for the article would mean it would deserve {{COI}}, which isn't a disqualifier per WP:DYKCOMPLETE.--Launchballer 16:34, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
There needs to be a community discussion on disclosed paid editors and DYK. I think it would be best to have a complete ban of paid articles on DYK rather than evaluating them on a case by case basis. Brie is an exceptional editor with a long history. To make an exception for her but not other paid editors opens up too many potential time consuming discussions that would be avoided with a simple ban. Thriley (talk) 15:56, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: If you believe that we need a hard ban on any COI articles on DYK, then please feel free to start an RfC about it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:36, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- I just did so. Thank you for the suggestion. Thriley (talk) 17:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: I see that you started the discussion, however it was on Rossini's talk page rather than a page with a wider audience like WT:DYK. If it's possible, I would suggest relocating the RfC. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:39, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Is there another place that would have an even wider audience? The DYK community is fairly small. Thriley (talk) 18:52, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- There probably is, but I think DYK should decide what DYK runs even if it is small.--Launchballer 18:55, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- Just to add to this discussion, I've had nominations go through DYK whilst working as a Wikimedian in residence, and I think as long as it is disclosed there shouldn't be an issue. The nominations I put through were part of projects with cultural heritage organisations (which I think as a community we want to encourage their support in general) and the hits from a DYK can be really helpful to demonstrate the impact that engaging appropriately with Wikimedia can have. I think clarification would be good, but I don't think it is outside the spirit of DYK. Lajmmoore (talk) 06:17, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- There probably is, but I think DYK should decide what DYK runs even if it is small.--Launchballer 18:55, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Is there another place that would have an even wider audience? The DYK community is fairly small. Thriley (talk) 18:52, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: I see that you started the discussion, however it was on Rossini's talk page rather than a page with a wider audience like WT:DYK. If it's possible, I would suggest relocating the RfC. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:39, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
- I just did so. Thank you for the suggestion. Thriley (talk) 17:29, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
Would appreciate if someone else could review this. I still don't feel completely comfortable approving. Sammi Brie, I hope my question about this one didn't annoy you too much. Just wanted community input- paid editing holds both great promise and great potential harm to the project. Best, Thriley (talk) 17:38, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Visit Myanmar Year
- ... that in response to Visit Myanmar Year, Aung San Suu Kyi led a movement for a boycott that advised "Don't Visit Myanmar"?
https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/15/travel/weighing-the-ethics-of-a-trip.html
https://www.burmalibrary.org/reg.burma/archives/199607/msg00256.htmlTarheelBornBred (talk) 21:40, 9 April 2025 (UTC).
WP:QPQ not done (or not linked above), stalled till then, may be quick failed if not completed soon.
- Note: I will most probably not be able to review this after QPQ is submitted as I just came across while patrolling. Others can definitely take over this review. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 11:58, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Bunnypranav: I think I linked the QPQ I did, this is my first time doing one so if I did it wrong I apologize. User:TarheelBornBred 17:04, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Comment: @TarheelBornBred:The hook is not supported in the article, in particular the phrase "Don't visit Myanmar" does not appear in the article. — ERcheck (talk) 15:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
- What about the hook ALT1, "In response to Visit Myanmar Year, Aung San Suu Kyi and the Burma Action Group both led a movement for a boycott that advised tourists not to visit Myanmar"? That way, the hook is more in line with the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TarheelBornBred (talk • contribs) 19:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @ERcheck: Pinging for review of the proposed ALT1 hook. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 19:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: How about ALT1b: "...that in response to the government's Visit Myanmar Year initiative, Aung San Suu Kyi and the Burma Action Group both encouraged a boycott advising tourists not to visit Myanmar?" — ERcheck (talk) 23:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @ERcheck: Pinging for review of the proposed ALT1 hook. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 19:51, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- What about the hook ALT1, "In response to Visit Myanmar Year, Aung San Suu Kyi and the Burma Action Group both led a movement for a boycott that advised tourists not to visit Myanmar"? That way, the hook is more in line with the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TarheelBornBred (talk • contribs) 19:55, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Comment: - @Sammi Brie: I've found many instances of repeating the same reference. Starting at the beginning of the article, I've made a few edits to the citations using "name=" in the ref tags. There are quite a few more in the article. It is challenging to assess the balance of citations with each instance being separate. Please see WP:REFNAME. - — ERcheck (talk) 01:23, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed now that hooks seem to be set. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Sunset Dunes
... that San Franciscans voted to replace an oceanfront roadway with a park?
- Source: https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/propk-great-highway-sf-19895246.php (A ballot measure to close a 2-mile stretch of San Francisco’s Great Highway passed with 54% of the vote in returns released Saturday afternoon. The controversial proposal, known as Proposition K, will ban vehicles on the city’s westernmost coastal boulevard between Lincoln Way and Sloat Boulevard.)
- ALT1: ... that San Francisco's newest park is located on an oceanfront road that is now permanently closed to cars? Source: https://sfrecpark.org/1555/Sunset-Dunes (In April 2020, the Great Highway was closed to vehicles from Lincoln to Sloat to provide recreational opportunities and social distancing space during the COVID-19 pandemic. In August 2021, the Great Highway reopened to vehicular traffic on weekdays while retaining the weekend park usage. In December 2022, the Board of Supervisors passed legislation establishing the Great Highway Pilot, a hybrid usage plan that closed the road to vehicles on holidays and weekends and, during which, traffic and visitor data was collected on the Great Highway’s use as both a roadway and park. In November 2024, San Francisco voters approved the passage of Proposition K, which transforms the Upper Great Highway to a permanent 24/7 recreational public park for walking, biking, rolling and more.)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Choquei
- Comment: I'll do the QPQ later today.
BaduFerreira (talk) 23:24, 16 April 2025 (UTC).
- Review by Noleander
Overall - Passed review.
- New: Okay: Article was created 9 April 2025, nominated 16 April.
- Hook: Fairly interesting: in USA it is rare to replace a road with a park; and this particular park location is very noteworthy. Primary hook is superior to Alt2 hook, in my judgement.
- Hook length is under 200 characters
- Verifiable: All important facts in article have citations. I did a spot check of about half the cites, and they are valid.
- Size: tool shows size is 2910 B (476 words) ... which meets the DYK requirements, I believe.
- Source for hook: Yes, a source is provided, and I looked at it.
- Plagiarism - I ran the Earwig copyvio tool and max % was 16%, which is within tolerances.
- POV: Article is neutral and factual.
- Images: article has one image, and it contains appropriate free use justification.
- Quid Pro Quo - Nominator says they have NOT done it yet; Cannot approve DYK until that is completed.
- @BaduFerreira: Can you ping me when you've done the QPQ? Thanks. Noleander (talk) 02:41, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Noleander: Added QPQ. Thank you for the review! BaduFerreira (talk) 16:29, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
Putting this on hold until the {{merge to}} is resolved. RoySmith (talk) 14:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 11
[edit]Marva Nabili
- ... that Marva Nabili, a member of the Iranian New Wave, made a "haunting" film about the struggles of a family in Manhattan's Chinatown?
- Source: "MARVA NABILI, an immigrant film maker from Iran, has written and directed Nightsongs, a fictional portrait of Chinese immigrants in New York. Having spent several years living near and even working in Chinatown, she has compiled a haunting biography of outsiders trying to survive in a new environment. The slice-of-life details are depicted with the immediacy of a documentary using a hidden camera. Being presented as part of public television's American Playhouse series,"
Thriley (talk) 05:10, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- One suggestion on the hook is to clarify which Chinatown ie "...the struggles of a family in New York's Chinatown." I know it's possible to hover over the link and identify which one it is but I think the additional specificity helps create curiosity. EEHalli (talk) 14:01, 24 April 2025 (UTC)
- Good idea. I added that to the hook. Thriley (talk) 16:17, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new enough and long enough, is sourced, neutral and plagiarism free. However the lead needs expanding, and I was confused by this sentence "In 1977, at the age of 36, Nabili became the second female director to make a feature film in Iran after Shala Riari's Marjan in 1956, a public failure at the time, of which no trace remains." - it seems to contradict the earlier paragraph about her return in 1975, nor does it specifiy the film. If its the Sealed Soil, then it need integrating into the paragraph on that topic and the chronology of production clarifying. Lajmmoore (talk) 19:24, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Thriley: please see the above comments. Z1720 (talk) 14:59, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- hello Thriley I put a few inline suggestions for clarification in the article, please could you take a look when you have a minute? Lajmmoore (talk) 18:26, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you! I corrected those. I also added "haunting", from The NY Times review, to the hook. Thriley (talk) 16:26, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 12
[edit]Technical geography
- ... that technical geography develops and tests methods for handling spatial information?
- ALT1: ... that technical geography studies the application of technologies like Geographic information systems, cartography, and remote sensing? Source: [1][2][3]
- ALT2: ... that while technical geography studies the application of GIS and remote sensing today, it has origins in Ptolemaic and medieval Islamic cartography?Source: [1][2][3][4][5]
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GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC).
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- Comment: @GeogSage: I can’t speak for others, but I don’t find either of your hooks interesting. Try to come up with others. Viriditas (talk) 01:15, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: @GeogSage: I'm seeing a lot of good, potential hooks in the article. Your section on "Early history and etymology" has quite a few. The material about Eratosthenes, the Ptolemaic tradition, and Islamic geographers could make separate hooks or could even be combined into one hook. Viriditas (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:: Thanks for the feedback. This is my first attempt, and I've been trying to think of good ways to respond. Would I put a new one in the comments here, or edit the proposal? GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:20, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @GeogSage: Brief response is best. No need to overthink it. Be yourself. Viriditas (talk) 02:22, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I think the ALT2 better fits your feedback. Let me know if you have suggestions to refine it. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:26, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GeogSage: You can click on the hook length link up above on the right to see how long your hooks are. Be mindful of the rules. Viriditas (talk) 21:30, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thanks, didn't see the tool. Better? GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:44, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GeogSage: You can shorten it much more, and others will ask you to do so. "... that while technical geography studies the applications of GIS and remote sensing today, it has origins in Ptolemaic and Islamic cartography?" That's 141 instead of 197 characters. Viriditas (talk) 22:46, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thanks! Shortened to 149, would want to specify "medieval" Islamic cartography as opposed to contemporary, for clarity. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 22:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GeogSage: That's fine. You'll need a proper review now. I will attempt to do so, but it might take me some time. Viriditas (talk) 22:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GeogSage: I realize this is your first time at DYK. The process is fairly simple and transparent. The hooks should be easy to find in the article and the sources should easily replicate and support the info. These two things are difficult to determine for all three of your hooks. Sometimes, editors who are faced with this issue will simply kludge the hooks into the article with a cited source. You may find this the easiest option. For the reviewer, we like to see how the sources support the hooks in a fairly overt way. I don't see the exact hooks in your current article (I see parts of them here and there), and it isn't easy to determine if the sources support them. If the simple method I've described up above to kludge the hooks doesn't work for you, you can easily implement a second solution: write a new hook from the source directly and add it to the article, showing how the source directly supports it with a quote. Any way you do it, just remember the process should be fairly transparent for the reviewer so we can easily check the hook and the source. Viriditas (talk) 01:17, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GeogSage: That's fine. You'll need a proper review now. I will attempt to do so, but it might take me some time. Viriditas (talk) 22:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Thanks! Shortened to 149, would want to specify "medieval" Islamic cartography as opposed to contemporary, for clarity. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 22:50, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GeogSage: You can click on the hook length link up above on the right to see how long your hooks are. Be mindful of the rules. Viriditas (talk) 21:30, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: I think the ALT2 better fits your feedback. Let me know if you have suggestions to refine it. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 21:26, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GeogSage: Brief response is best. No need to overthink it. Be yourself. Viriditas (talk) 02:22, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas:: Thanks for the feedback. This is my first attempt, and I've been trying to think of good ways to respond. Would I put a new one in the comments here, or edit the proposal? GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 02:20, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: @GeogSage: I'm seeing a lot of good, potential hooks in the article. Your section on "Early history and etymology" has quite a few. The material about Eratosthenes, the Ptolemaic tradition, and Islamic geographers could make separate hooks or could even be combined into one hook. Viriditas (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new (GA) and long enough at the time of nomination. Earwig report looks good. ALT2 is interesting. The "see also" borders on the absurd, so I think there is a fundamental misunderstanding as to how we use this section. Most of these entries should be deleted. Lead section may be satisfactory for DYK, but as a recent GAN, it should be rewritten to summarize the main points of the article, which at the moment, it does not do. Use of excessively long captions also deviates from best practices. Formatting of book titles, such as Cave 1749, require italics. The date is also wrong. The book was first published a decade earlier; 1749 refers to the second edition. You don't have to type out the entire 18th century title; Geography Reformed (1739) will do as a shortened title. Remove the stray comma from "1749,". The SAGE Handbook of Historical Geography says it was anonymously authored but published by Cave. Presentation is slightly hampered by textual issues with sentences such as "These frameworks were mostly advanced mostly by human geographers..." Also, "While when the term technical geography first entered the English lexicon..." Use of quotations of common words and phrases in the "Early history and etymology" section should be replaced with paraphrasing. Book titles like Geographia and Kitab al-Buldan use italics. You write "Geography has a history spanning cultures and thousands of years and is described as a "mother science" from which more specialized disciplines emerge..." I would want to see a quote from the source on that, as it sounds incredibly unusual. Philosophy and physics are most often described as the "mother science", not geography. Perhaps something was lost in translation here as it doesn't make sense. Copyedits needed. The section on "Quantitative revolution" is an example of WP:CITEKILL. You don't need or require six citations for two sentences. You can bundle citations or use footnotes if needed. One citation per sentence is generally recommened, two if needed. Update: I went ahead and made a series of copyedits.[2] My main concern right now concerns 1) the lead section, which does not properly summarize the article or its main points, but I think DYK allows for that, so it is not an issue that has any bearing on the success of this nomination, but it does personally bother me, and I wanted to express my concerns because there will be readers who will come here to learn more and will be turned away by the lead; I know I was. Please rewrite the lead to summarize the entirety of the subject you've presented, highlighting the most significant points. 2) I like ALT2, but I'm having great difficulty verifying it based on your citations (and it doesn't appear in whole in the article, just in parts). @GeogSage: Why don't you make this as easy as possible and mine Geographia Technica[3] for a good hook and add it to this article? I see an interesting one about how technical geography was used during the COVID-19 pandemic to analyze NO2 concentrations, showing that pandemic restrictions led to emissions reductions.[4] Alternatively, I see another good hook that is already in the article, but needs some work. The information about the Michigan-Wisconsin boundary Supreme Court case would make a good hook, but you will need to return to the source to flesh it out as it isn't all that clear. I combined ALT0 and ALT1 together to get ALT3, and added the cartography bit from the "Fundamentals" section, where ALT3 appears, but shortened the entire thing. Viriditas (talk) 23:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3: ... that Ferjan Ormeling Jr. believes technical geography builds on traditional cartography by applying spatial analysis tools to aid decision-makers? Sources: Haidu 2016; Ormeling 2009.
@GeogSage: This potential hook (which already appears in the "Fundamentals" section and elsewhere) could be vastly improved by adding additional features like forecasting and predicting future events and tracking diseases, but none of that appears in your current version. I'm tapping out now, because I created ALT3 based on the only sources I could find that support each other independently, with Haidu 2016 describing Ormeling 2009, which makes it verifiable and secondary in nature based on the primary. I originally wanted to add a hook about Geography Reformed, but I only found primary sources, with no referential secondary. Generally, with DYK, you want a hook that is supported by a source like Haidu 2016 referring to Ormeling 2009, and that's something you want to aim for so there's a layer of separation between the original statement and the source referring to the original statement. That helps avoid original research which is why I didn't submit the hook about Cave 1739, even though I liked that one. I will leave the final determination to others. Viriditas (talk) 23:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas and GeogSage: Looking at the Technicalgeography source, it says "Ormeling (2009a) sees Technical Geography as a natural and modern consequence of the evolution of Cartography from map production to spatial information capable of supporting decision-making procedures." If Haidu is attributing, we should.--Launchballer 13:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I hear you, but the primary contributor has written the article using the omniscient narrative voice of a college textbook, which makes having to change the article to Wikipedia style very difficult. I've proposed throwing the baby out with the bathwater and writing several different hooks, but I keep running into the same problem with the wording and the sourcing. I'm not sure I can do anymore at this point. We can add something like ".. that Ferjan Ormeling Jr. believes technical geography builds on traditional cartography by applying spatial analysis tools to aid decision-makers?" but it honestly sounds terrible, and there's no way I can even add that to the current article. Do what you have to do at this point. Viriditas (talk) 23:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:, @Viriditas: sorry for being AFK on this, my time is limited due to work and I keep trying to chew on this to find a better hook then what I already proposed while meeting the criteria given. I apologize if my writing style is like a college textbook, I tried to keep things in line with Wikipedia but my writing experience is mostly academic articles and textbooks. My interpretation of the Haidu article is that he believes the statements made in Ormeling's chapter "technical geography" apply to the concept of technical geography. Thank you for finding that source on the Cave publication, I spent an unfortunate amount of time trying to figure out how to handle that publication without much luck. The citation chain on the quantitative revolution section is a bit important, as those articles are all pretty heavily cited in the academic literature on the topic. I'll try to condense them to a single footnote. I plan to work on overhauling this article, again, once I finish some publications I have due to an editor. I'll try to implement all of your feedback, as I hope to one day get this to FA status. On the topic of geography as a "Mother science", I'd need to dig into that particular quote to see where I specifically found it, but it is fairly common. If you do a Google scholar search for "the mother science" you'll find references to multiple disciplines, such as botany. On page two of that search you can find an article from 1908 in Nature titled Historical Geography of the British Colonies, and the abstract states "It is not surprising, therefore, that geography is assuming the position of the mother science, and tends to include, not only the physical features of the earth, but all the events which have taken place upon it." In this case, "Mother science" seems to just be the field that sub-fields split off from, so both Physics and Geography could be classified as such, both are extremely old disciplines comparatively speaking. I added the 1908 article as a citation for that word choice just in case. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 01:10, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- I completely understand your position and this isn't the first time this has happened. There are a lot of academic, textbook writers on Wikipedia, so this happens a lot! One quick solution is to just find a short and interesting hook. I think a hook that shows how technical geography applies Kriging, originally developed for mining, would be really cool, but I couldn't find anything about "technical geography" in the sources, just geoscience. If you can find sources that make mention of technical geography and Kriging, and how it is used, that would be perfect and I think we could pass it. The important thing to remember is for anyone to easily verify 1) it's about the specific topic (technical geography) 2) it's found in the cited source 3) uses attribution if necessary, and 4) appears in the Wikipedia article. That's about it. Viriditas (talk) 01:21, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:, @Viriditas: sorry for being AFK on this, my time is limited due to work and I keep trying to chew on this to find a better hook then what I already proposed while meeting the criteria given. I apologize if my writing style is like a college textbook, I tried to keep things in line with Wikipedia but my writing experience is mostly academic articles and textbooks. My interpretation of the Haidu article is that he believes the statements made in Ormeling's chapter "technical geography" apply to the concept of technical geography. Thank you for finding that source on the Cave publication, I spent an unfortunate amount of time trying to figure out how to handle that publication without much luck. The citation chain on the quantitative revolution section is a bit important, as those articles are all pretty heavily cited in the academic literature on the topic. I'll try to condense them to a single footnote. I plan to work on overhauling this article, again, once I finish some publications I have due to an editor. I'll try to implement all of your feedback, as I hope to one day get this to FA status. On the topic of geography as a "Mother science", I'd need to dig into that particular quote to see where I specifically found it, but it is fairly common. If you do a Google scholar search for "the mother science" you'll find references to multiple disciplines, such as botany. On page two of that search you can find an article from 1908 in Nature titled Historical Geography of the British Colonies, and the abstract states "It is not surprising, therefore, that geography is assuming the position of the mother science, and tends to include, not only the physical features of the earth, but all the events which have taken place upon it." In this case, "Mother science" seems to just be the field that sub-fields split off from, so both Physics and Geography could be classified as such, both are extremely old disciplines comparatively speaking. I added the 1908 article as a citation for that word choice just in case. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 01:10, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I hear you, but the primary contributor has written the article using the omniscient narrative voice of a college textbook, which makes having to change the article to Wikipedia style very difficult. I've proposed throwing the baby out with the bathwater and writing several different hooks, but I keep running into the same problem with the wording and the sourcing. I'm not sure I can do anymore at this point. We can add something like ".. that Ferjan Ormeling Jr. believes technical geography builds on traditional cartography by applying spatial analysis tools to aid decision-makers?" but it honestly sounds terrible, and there's no way I can even add that to the current article. Do what you have to do at this point. Viriditas (talk) 23:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas and GeogSage: Looking at the Technicalgeography source, it says "Ormeling (2009a) sees Technical Geography as a natural and modern consequence of the evolution of Cartography from map production to spatial information capable of supporting decision-making procedures." If Haidu is attributing, we should.--Launchballer 13:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Iblis
- ... that due to the similarities in function between Iblis's web and the Hindu concept of māyā, the seventeenth-century Mughal Dara Shikoh sought to reconcile the Upanishads with Sufi cosmology?
- Source: Barry, M. A. (2004). Figurative art in medieval Islam and the riddle of Bihzad of Herat (1465-1535). Flammarion.: 246
- Reviewed:
VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 14:49, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
- Please read the rules - there are NO LINKS!!! - you need at least 4 here. Put them in & I'll finish the review. Johnbod (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Ok, you have now done so. GA, AGF on hook fact/ref (the hook is virtually a quote from the article). The hook is not very clear, but nor is the article, frankly. No qpq needed. The pic is ok, if rather tall, but the caption waaaay too long! You won't get more than say "Iblis (right) guards the Divine Garden. Johnbod (talk) 01:48, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
- Johnbod, this doesn't really strike me as a "yes". I agree the hook is unclear to the average reader. I think a clearer one should be promoted, and the image is not clear at displayed size.
꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:04, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- It was a yes, but a clearer/snappier hook might be better. I don't feel qualified to suggest one, but as always, anyone else may do so. I can probably understand it better than many of our readers as I know what the Upanishads are, and who Dara Shikoh was. Johnbod (talk) 03:16, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure if I missed something, but what is the consensus about the hook now? is it fine or do I need somethign else to do?VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 12:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure either. It passed review as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps one of those who like fiddling with hooks at the last minute will find a better hook after promotion. Zanahary? Johnbod (talk) 16:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just noting that the image is poor at thumb size, which is disappointing as it's a nice image overall and of a different art style than usually featured. If it's possible to isolate Iblis with a crop, that may make it clearer i.e. usable. Kingsif (talk) 01:06, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- I could upload an isolated variant for the DYK, as I did with the blue angel on the mosaic in Sant'Apollinare Nuovo, Ravenna, in Devil in Christianity. Maybe give me time until weekend. I have not seen your request until now by the way. I apologize for that.
- Just noting that the image is poor at thumb size, which is disappointing as it's a nice image overall and of a different art style than usually featured. If it's possible to isolate Iblis with a crop, that may make it clearer i.e. usable. Kingsif (talk) 01:06, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure either. It passed review as far as I'm concerned. Perhaps one of those who like fiddling with hooks at the last minute will find a better hook after promotion. Zanahary? Johnbod (talk) 16:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure if I missed something, but what is the consensus about the hook now? is it fine or do I need somethign else to do?VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 12:41, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
- It was a yes, but a clearer/snappier hook might be better. I don't feel qualified to suggest one, but as always, anyone else may do so. I can probably understand it better than many of our readers as I know what the Upanishads are, and who Dara Shikoh was. Johnbod (talk) 03:16, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Johnbod, this doesn't really strike me as a "yes". I agree the hook is unclear to the average reader. I think a clearer one should be promoted, and the image is not clear at displayed size.
VenusFeuerFalle I'd like to double-check the hook fact. Could you send me a copy of the appropriate page from Barry 2004? I can get it on inter-library loan, but it would probably be a lot faster if you could send me a scan. Thanks. RoySmith (talk) 17:42, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sure. I have been back to the library yesterday to take a photo of the page. Would you mind telling me how I sent it to you? RoySmith
- Since I would like to reach a closure with this article, I would simply leave a quote for the relevant passage:
"The devil's defective spiritual vision is transcribed in medieval Islamic literature and art by various obvious symbols. Because he may only perceive and therefore only reflect God's transcendent aspect of wrath, and never God's immanent aspect of love, Satan is therefore nicknamed al-A'mash, the bleray-eyed or goggled-eyed (as he appears in Sultan-Muhammad's sixteenth century paintings), or he is called al-A'war, the blind in one eye (the distinctive attribute of the demon Dajjal the Antichrist, who thereby dooms to the same fate such as unwitting followers as the three damned "Calandar" princes in the 1001 Nights). Mystical treatises like Mahmud-i Shabistar's famous fourteenth-century manual of Sufism, the Gulshan-i Raz (Rose Bower of Mystery"), list whole series of various heresies or errorneous theological stands whose defenders are depicted as Satan's brood, and so variously described as one-eyed, bleary-eyed, too near-sighted, too far-sighted, or blind. Satan represents his own opague mental state in God's universe. But the devil is part of God's universe, not other. There is no reality other than God. Here is where Islam's relentless monotheistic drive, under the pends of such spiritual masters as al-Hallaj, 'Ayn-ul-Quzat, Sana'i, Rozbihan, 'Attar, Ibn 'Arabi, Rumi, and Jami independently carried Muslim mystical speculation to dizzy conceptual heights akin to the most rarefied summits of ndian cosmological thought. (...) Satan, unknowingly, therefore serves as God's mask. He is himself the veil (iltibas) which the Godhead weaves, as Rozbihan's glosses to al-Hallaj explain, and wherein the Godhead chooses to hide from all those unworthy to perceive the divine therein. That is, the cosmic veil is the visible universe itself, which reveals God's presence to those who known, but conceals God's presence from those who do not know. In this sense, iltibas [the veil], in Sufi speculation, may be regarded as virtually a symbolic equivalent to the traditional Indian concept of maya, the "veil of cosmic illusion." Such philosophical equivelance between Sufism and Hinduism came in fact to be perceived by a few scholars of both faiths when Sufism and Hinduism met on Indian soul, and enlightened thingers familiar with both traditions, like the seventeenth-century Mughal prince Dara Shikoh, sought to reconcile the essence of Ibn 'Arabi's teachings with the Upanishads. Indeed, Sufis's diabolic "Cloake One" also serves, like the maya which protects the secret nature of Indian divinities from the eyes of the profane, a positive cosmic function: the devil becomes God's warden, as it were, a ferocious temple guard or "keeper of the cutrain" who bars access by the unworthy unto the Godhead."
- Since I would like to reach a closure with this article, I would simply leave a quote for the relevant passage:
- Sure. I have been back to the library yesterday to take a photo of the page. Would you mind telling me how I sent it to you? RoySmith
With that, I would also like to ask, if there are any further objections RoySmith, Zanahary, Kingsif, Johnbod?
- Indeed - I never had any in the first place. Can we progress this now please. Johnbod (talk) 04:07, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Since it is almost a month old by now, and a thing supposed to be done within not more than 2 weeks, can someone just accept it by now? If still after 2 weeks none of the objectors replied, the objection cannot be that strong. And double check should still be possible as the quote has been made accessable for everyone here.VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 11:57, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- No, I still object. The hook is long-winded and makes no sense to someone unfamiliar with Upanishads, which is a lot of people. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's asking too much from a 200-char hook, really. If you can't suggest a better hook (and nobody has so far), time to let go. Johnbod (talk) 01:13, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Broad comprehensibility is too much to ask of a DYK hook? The hook is incomprehensible, the image is unreadable, and the article is full of prose like
If angels can sin or not is disputed in Islam. Those who say that Iblis was not an angel, but a jinni, argue that only jinn (and humans), but not angels are capable of disobedience… This view is also found to be prominent among many Salafis. The Sunni school holds on to the doctrine of predestination, al-Razi being an exception, and asserts that…
. The article consistently usesIblis'
instead ofIblis's
, which is ungrammatical. How about this article be subjected to the thorough copyedit and review that it should have received when it passed GA, and then someone can write a coherent hook? If not, then the nominator canlet go
.꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:31, 29 May 2025 (UTC)- It seems your objection is much more than just the DYK nomination then. I wonder why you did not mention anything during the GA review, it took long enough. And it would also be helpful to adress your true concerns earlier rather than waiting almost a month after you raised entirely different objection. This is everything but constructive. But okay, let's put that aside and let's aderss your concerns: Regarding the spelling, both variations are fine: https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/ If the source is mistaken, feel free to enlighten us or fix it yourself. It shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes. Now regarding the hook: I do not see how it is incomprehensible. If you know neither Sufism, nor Iblis, nor the Upanishads, maybe it is a great moment to click on the highlighted bright blue Wiki-Links? The article is not about an American subject afterall, so being introduced to something new is unavoidable at this point. If you have a better suggestion, as stated previously, feel free to make a suggestion, be constructive! Because as it is now, the hook does qualify as a hook: It is interesting, something new to learn, offers information the reader probably did not know, etc. ZanaharyVenusFeuerFalle (talk) 12:58, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- I didn’t take part in the review. The article is full of truly poor prose, and it shouldn’t be on the front page until it’s copyedited. I think my position—that the article is unsuitable for featuring and that its proposed hook is poor—is clear now.꧁Zanahary꧂ 21:18, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- If you think the article has serious issues, you should propose a Good article Nominee reassessment. I doubt you will bring it through, as three independent Users had a look at this article, without any major objections. However, this is the DYK nomination, not the GA accessment. And apart from your personal distaste for the article, you are left to explain properly, because it is everything but clear what you mean, you have not contributed anything constructive yet. I do not want to be rude, but I am currently inclined to disregard your opinion on this entirely (WP:WHATISCONSENSUS), as you bring nothing to the table but vague criticism and advises which even contradict grammar rules. Please clarify specifically what your concerns are or I suggest to proceed with the review.Zanahary As you Johnbod have been the reviewer, I would like to invite you to share your current opinion on the DYN. As far as I understood, you were fine with the hook as it is now. The objection raised by Zanahary about the picture has been adressed as well.
- I might start a GA reassessment, but I don’t have to in order to oppose this article’s featuring on DYK, because this is a separate review process—if it weren’t, the article could just be checked for basic eligibility and the GA review would stand in for any review of content. The idea that this my comments are based on my “personal distaste” for the article are confusing and unfounded; I’ve been clear that I find the article to have unacceptable issues in its writing, with lots of its prose being ungrammatical and/or unclear. And I still disagree with your arguments that the hook is suitably comprehensible to a broad audience. And please see MOS:POSS. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've touched up some (minor) prose issues, but otherwise I agree you should start a GA reassessment if you feel that strongly. It's not a good situation if an article is a GA but not held suitable to be a DYK on the sorts of issues you mention, and I don't believe the view of a single editor should be enough to bring this about. The subject is one where clarity is next to impossible to achieve, & I still believe the article is ok for Dyk. What do others think? Johnbod (talk) 02:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- For anyone checking in to see what the fuss is about, I've placed inline tags in the article.꧁Zanahary꧂ 05:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've touched up some (minor) prose issues, but otherwise I agree you should start a GA reassessment if you feel that strongly. It's not a good situation if an article is a GA but not held suitable to be a DYK on the sorts of issues you mention, and I don't believe the view of a single editor should be enough to bring this about. The subject is one where clarity is next to impossible to achieve, & I still believe the article is ok for Dyk. What do others think? Johnbod (talk) 02:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I might start a GA reassessment, but I don’t have to in order to oppose this article’s featuring on DYK, because this is a separate review process—if it weren’t, the article could just be checked for basic eligibility and the GA review would stand in for any review of content. The idea that this my comments are based on my “personal distaste” for the article are confusing and unfounded; I’ve been clear that I find the article to have unacceptable issues in its writing, with lots of its prose being ungrammatical and/or unclear. And I still disagree with your arguments that the hook is suitably comprehensible to a broad audience. And please see MOS:POSS. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:36, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- If you think the article has serious issues, you should propose a Good article Nominee reassessment. I doubt you will bring it through, as three independent Users had a look at this article, without any major objections. However, this is the DYK nomination, not the GA accessment. And apart from your personal distaste for the article, you are left to explain properly, because it is everything but clear what you mean, you have not contributed anything constructive yet. I do not want to be rude, but I am currently inclined to disregard your opinion on this entirely (WP:WHATISCONSENSUS), as you bring nothing to the table but vague criticism and advises which even contradict grammar rules. Please clarify specifically what your concerns are or I suggest to proceed with the review.Zanahary As you Johnbod have been the reviewer, I would like to invite you to share your current opinion on the DYN. As far as I understood, you were fine with the hook as it is now. The objection raised by Zanahary about the picture has been adressed as well.
- I didn’t take part in the review. The article is full of truly poor prose, and it shouldn’t be on the front page until it’s copyedited. I think my position—that the article is unsuitable for featuring and that its proposed hook is poor—is clear now.꧁Zanahary꧂ 21:18, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- It seems your objection is much more than just the DYK nomination then. I wonder why you did not mention anything during the GA review, it took long enough. And it would also be helpful to adress your true concerns earlier rather than waiting almost a month after you raised entirely different objection. This is everything but constructive. But okay, let's put that aside and let's aderss your concerns: Regarding the spelling, both variations are fine: https://www.grammarbook.com/blog/apostrophes/apostrophes-with-words-ending-in-s/ If the source is mistaken, feel free to enlighten us or fix it yourself. It shouldn't take longer than 5 minutes. Now regarding the hook: I do not see how it is incomprehensible. If you know neither Sufism, nor Iblis, nor the Upanishads, maybe it is a great moment to click on the highlighted bright blue Wiki-Links? The article is not about an American subject afterall, so being introduced to something new is unavoidable at this point. If you have a better suggestion, as stated previously, feel free to make a suggestion, be constructive! Because as it is now, the hook does qualify as a hook: It is interesting, something new to learn, offers information the reader probably did not know, etc. ZanaharyVenusFeuerFalle (talk) 12:58, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Broad comprehensibility is too much to ask of a DYK hook? The hook is incomprehensible, the image is unreadable, and the article is full of prose like
- That's asking too much from a 200-char hook, really. If you can't suggest a better hook (and nobody has so far), time to let go. Johnbod (talk) 01:13, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- No, I still object. The hook is long-winded and makes no sense to someone unfamiliar with Upanishads, which is a lot of people. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 18:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Since it is almost a month old by now, and a thing supposed to be done within not more than 2 weeks, can someone just accept it by now? If still after 2 weeks none of the objectors replied, the objection cannot be that strong. And double check should still be possible as the quote has been made accessable for everyone here.VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 11:57, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed - I never had any in the first place. Can we progress this now please. Johnbod (talk) 04:07, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just noting that the vast majority of tags at least are valid (I don't care to figure out appropriate weighting) and would be cause for this to quickfail at WP:GA. I strongly recommend a GAR.--Launchballer 10:27, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Just noting that to me many seem clearly pointy and excessive. It would have been quicker4 to fix than tag some minor English points. But I suppose thyis just goes to show that a determined editor who dislikes the article for some reason can derail a dyk. Johnbod (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Good lord, enough about me mysteriously "disliking" the article—it’s a very cool topic and I expressed interest in reviewing it back when it was nominated (someone else got there first). But it is full of ungrammatical prose, truly unclear language (which I couldn’t quickly fix), strange organization (with the story of Iblis refusing himself to prostrate before Adam being repeated many times across sections without variation), and has a habit of stating in wikivoice what absolutely must be attributed in-text. The GAR script isn’t working for me, so if anyone (Launchballer?) can just make a blank reassessment page for me, I can write the rationale.꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know how and where you "expressed interest" (not on the article talk), but yes, I did start a review some 24 hours after the nom went up, since which time you have dogged my review and the article, telling me I think things I don't, not responding to requests, & raising vague complaints, now followed by a carpet-bombing of tags. Johnbod (talk) 17:48, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
telling me I think things I don't
I literally don't know what you're talking about. I expressed interest on some contest page or something, and then VFF came to my Talk to ask if I'd like to take up the review, as the original reviewer hadn't been active, and I declined. There's a detailed GAR now, so hopefully you no longer feel my complaints are "vague".꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:57, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know how and where you "expressed interest" (not on the article talk), but yes, I did start a review some 24 hours after the nom went up, since which time you have dogged my review and the article, telling me I think things I don't, not responding to requests, & raising vague complaints, now followed by a carpet-bombing of tags. Johnbod (talk) 17:48, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Good lord, enough about me mysteriously "disliking" the article—it’s a very cool topic and I expressed interest in reviewing it back when it was nominated (someone else got there first). But it is full of ungrammatical prose, truly unclear language (which I couldn’t quickly fix), strange organization (with the story of Iblis refusing himself to prostrate before Adam being repeated many times across sections without variation), and has a habit of stating in wikivoice what absolutely must be attributed in-text. The GAR script isn’t working for me, so if anyone (Launchballer?) can just make a blank reassessment page for me, I can write the rationale.꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Just noting that to me many seem clearly pointy and excessive. It would have been quicker4 to fix than tag some minor English points. But I suppose thyis just goes to show that a determined editor who dislikes the article for some reason can derail a dyk. Johnbod (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
I created the GAR page. If this stays GA, you may ask at WT:DYK for this to be reopened.--Launchballer 17:00, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 15
[edit]Dilaw (song)
- ... that "Dilaw" was a dominant song in the Philippines and gained international recognition?
- Source: ABS-CBN, Billboard Philippines
- ALT1: ... that "Dilaw" reached the top spot on Billboard Philippines Hot 100 and Top Philippines Songs chart and entered the Spotify Global Chart at 200? Source: Billboard Philippines
- ALT2: ... that the creator of "Dilaw" Maki is a leading OPM artist with the most listeners on Spotify? Source: ABS-CBN CORPORATE, TRIBUNE
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chocolate in savory cooking
ROY is WAR Talk! 09:43, 20 April 2025 (UTC).
- Comment, I don't think any of the proposed ALTs are interesting enough - the first two basically say DYK that a song was popular, and the third isn't about the song, but the singer. Any alternatives? Eddie891 Talk Work 10:11, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hello, Eddie891! Here's my alt 3:
- ALT 3: ...that "Dilaw" performed with Maki at LANY's concert at the Philippine Arena? GMA Network ROY is WAR Talk! 03:24, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- To me, this hook has a similar problem of interest- What is interesting about the fact that a singer performed one of their songs at a concert? Eddie891 Talk Work 06:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm thinking something like ALT4: ... that Dilaw was number one on a final singles chart and on two debut singles charts?--Launchballer 18:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
@Royiswariii: Long enough, new enough. None of the first four hooks meet WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE and upon further inspection my ALT4 doesn't check out either (refs 19 and 20 do not explicitly say that they are the final issues). I can call for another reviewer on ALT4a: ... that "Dilaw" topped the first two weeks of two singles charts? or you can propose me a hook about its parody.--Launchballer 11:28, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer sure. I will create for another alt. ROY is WAR Talk! 11:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm thinking something like ALT4: ... that Dilaw was number one on a final singles chart and on two debut singles charts?--Launchballer 18:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- To me, this hook has a similar problem of interest- What is interesting about the fact that a singer performed one of their songs at a concert? Eddie891 Talk Work 06:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT5: "...that Filipino comedian Michael V. created a parody titled Hilaw, based on the song Dilaw by Maki?"Source: GMA Integrated News
- Launchballer you can change it if you want. The ALT4a is great too, i will leave to the reviewer what they'll pick.ROY is WAR Talk! 00:39, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- I like Michael V's work on Bubble Gang, but I really don't think we should go with ALT5 as I don't think it would appeal to non-Filipino readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:08, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- What is your opinion of my ALT4a Naruto?--Launchballer 21:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- A bit on the meh side, but I'm okay with it if there are no other better options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:56, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- What is your opinion of my ALT4a Naruto?--Launchballer 21:45, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- I like Michael V's work on Bubble Gang, but I really don't think we should go with ALT5 as I don't think it would appeal to non-Filipino readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:08, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 17
[edit]Furhat (robot)
- ... that the Furhat social robot can track facial expressions and interact with up to ten people at once?
- Source: Biba, Jacob (May 8, 2024). "What Is a Social Robot?". Built In. Retrieved April 10, 2025.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Invited to submit a fact since article got a B rating in AfC
Viljowf (talk) 18:31, 17 April 2025 (UTC).
The article is new, long enough, and comprehensive. I do not see any neutrality or style concerns, but Gheus has placed the Template:Paid contributions tag. Is there anything wrong with the content of the article, Gheus? Surtsicna (talk) 22:57, 27 April 2025 (UTC)
- You can remove it if you think it has no COI concerns. Gheus (talk) 06:13, 28 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Viljowf: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:02, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- The COI was declared upon submission to AfC. I believe article complies fully with NPOV. Please remove the tag.Viljowf (talk) 14:09, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just noting that {{paid contributions}}/{{COI}} are maintenance templates and as such are not disqualifiers. If I remove the tag, I'll probably replace it with {{cleanup}} as this deserves it (to give a few examples, no sentence should start with 'and' and '(see below)' needs to go away).--Launchballer 10:39, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 18
[edit]Hazel Vincent Wallace
- ... that Hazel Vincent Wallace was the first woman to build a new theatre, the Thorndike, in Britain?
- Source: Times obituary subhead reads "Indomitable spirit who with the backing of Dame Sybil Thorndike became the first woman to build a new theatre in Britain." https://archive.is/JgL6t
Two 1969 sources from when the theatre opened, which are in the British Newspaper Archive (paywalled) https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/BL/0000560/19690917/140/0017
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/BL/0001180/19690807/138/0015- ALT1: ... that in 1969 actor-manager Hazel Vincent Wallace became the first woman to build a theatre in Britain? Source: as per first suggestion
- Reviewed:
EEHalli (talk) 20:11, 22 April 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new, long enough, and well sourced. WP:DAILYMIRROR is no consensus for reliability, but an uncontroversial article from 1969 seems safe enough. The hook is an exceptional claim but it seems to be well supported by reliable sources, and it is interesting. qpq is not required because the nominator has less than 5 previous noms. BuySomeApples (talk) 10:26, 26 April 2025 (UTC)
@EEHalli, BuySomeApples, History6042, Ganesha811, and Fram: reopening this one per issue raised at WP:ERRORS. Fram's objection was: "Rowena Cade built the Minack Theatre in the 1920s. The Royal Shakespeare Theatre was built in 1932 by Elisabeth Scott". — Amakuru (talk) 16:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm, it's well-sourced in the article, The Times put this fact as their subheadline. So it seems like either reliable sources got it wrong or Fram did. Not sure what the best course of action here is. —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:45, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps rephrasing as "...that actor manager Hazel Vincent Wallace became the first woman to build a postwar theatre in Britain?" The adjective postwar qualifies it (and works quite nicely with the uncompromisingly Brutalist design of the Thorndike).EEHalli (talk) 17:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- That sucks, there's a lot of reliable sources reporting it but it clearly isn't true. The article should be edited to fix that too now. The rephrased hook sounds a little WP:SYNTHy. Is there any other hook we can use? BuySomeApples (talk) 05:14, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @EEHalli: Please address the above.--Launchballer 06:58, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- That sucks, there's a lot of reliable sources reporting it but it clearly isn't true. The article should be edited to fix that too now. The rephrased hook sounds a little WP:SYNTHy. Is there any other hook we can use? BuySomeApples (talk) 05:14, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps rephrasing as "...that actor manager Hazel Vincent Wallace became the first woman to build a postwar theatre in Britain?" The adjective postwar qualifies it (and works quite nicely with the uncompromisingly Brutalist design of the Thorndike).EEHalli (talk) 17:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
Trichy assault rifle
- ... that the Trichy assault rifle is named after Ordnance Factory Tiruchirappalli in order to recognize its contribution in developing and manufacturing the rifle?
- ALT1: ... that the Trichy assault rifle was made to reduce dependence on purchasing the Bulgarian AR-M1 under Atmanirbhar Bharat?
- Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240628105509/https://www.indiatoday.in/india-today-insight/story/baby-tar-india-s-smallest-assault-rifle-1762654-2021-01-25
- https://web.archive.org/web/20240430130152/https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Tiruchirapalli/oft-launches-40-x-46-mm-under-barrel-grenade-launcher/article35683036.ece
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Multo (song)
- Comment: Got these two in mind. Don't mind other alternatives.
Ominae (talk) 06:39, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Ominae: Just noting that this badly needs a copyedit and I have tagged this accordingly.--Launchballer 11:40, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
But on the other hand, I review oldest first, so it's this or something 5,000 words bigger, so I carried it out myself. This would still deserve {{lead too short}} but that's not a DYK issue. This is long enough and new enough. Earwig is clean. Your QPQ is sorely lacking in specifics, although as it seems to have gone through without a hitch I'll accept it. I don't consider ALT0 interesting (it's always going to be named after something) and ALT1 doesn't quite check out (it may have reduced imports but I don't see where either source says it was developed for that reason). I can suggest ALT2: ... that one police force tested the Trichy assault rifle in mud, rain, and saltwater before ordering? but I'd need to request another reviewer and I'll hear other suggestions.--Launchballer 12:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Shame though... and I thought at least ALT0 would work. I have no problem doing an alternate ALT. Though wondering if there's edits that need to be done, @Launchballer:. Ominae (talk) 11:59, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
I must ask for another reviewer.--Launchballer 21:46, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Tribalistas (2002 album)
- ... that the cover for Tribalistas was created by Vik Muniz, who used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio after musical strings did not work?
- Source: Video source "Eu fiz todos os retratos do Arnaldo, Brown e da Marisa com cordas, antes. Era para ser uma capa completamente diferente. Eram com cordas de cavaquinho [...] Era todo um desenho baseado em dobrar cordas de aço." --> "I made all the portraits of Arnaldo, Brown, and Marisa with strings, before. It was supposed to be a completely different cover. They were with cavaquinho strings [...] It was all a design based on folding steel strings."
Cattos💭 02:51, 18 April 2025 (UTC).
- The current wording seems to be a bit off since it seems to focus more on Muniz than the chocolate syrup aspect. How do the following rewords sound?
- ALT0a ... that Vik Muniz used chocolate syrup to illustrate the cover for Brazilian supergroup Tribalistas' debut album after musical strings did not work?
- ALT0b ... that the cover for Brazilian supergroup Tribalistas' debut album used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio after an earlier attempt with musical strings did not work?
- ALT0c ... that the cover for Brazilian supergroup Tribalistas' debut album used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio?
- Admittedly, the first two new options are slightly longer than the original, but they're more intended to put more focus on the chocolate syrup fact than Muniz. Of course, if you prefer the original wording then that's fine. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:09, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Personally, those suggestions sound a bit strange as I find ALT0a to focus on Muniz himself. What if I removed the "was created by Vik Muniz, who" part in my original hook? ALT0d ... that the cover for Tribalistas used chocolate syrup to illustrate the trio after an earlier attempt with musical strings that did not work? Cattos💭 12:27, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Cathodography: How does ALT0c sound then? Another issue I had with the original wording is that it wasn't clear what "trio" referred to (it's supposed to refer to the Tribalistas, but the hook did not make it clear that "Tribalistas" was also the name of the group). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:29, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: "Trio" could possibly be replaced by "artists" or "members". If not, I'm fine with ALT0c and your most hookier ALT0b, though you did not link the supergroup Tribalistas in the hooks. Cattos💭 12:51, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- To be honest, I don't think substituting "trio" with either "members" or "artists" solves the issue because, ultimately, the problem is that ALT0 does not make it clear that Tribalistas is the name of both the album and the group. With regards to linking to linking to the group itself in ALT0b/ALT0c, there's really no need per WP:SEAOFBLUE. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:56, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: "Trio" could possibly be replaced by "artists" or "members". If not, I'm fine with ALT0c and your most hookier ALT0b, though you did not link the supergroup Tribalistas in the hooks. Cattos💭 12:51, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Cathodography: How does ALT0c sound then? Another issue I had with the original wording is that it wasn't clear what "trio" referred to (it's supposed to refer to the Tribalistas, but the hook did not make it clear that "Tribalistas" was also the name of the group). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:29, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 15:04, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Brave Bunnies
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that European broadcasters waived their rights to Brave Bunnies so that the children's series could be streamed ad-free in Ukrainian for refugees?
- Source: Marian McHugh, Broadcast "Go Jetters helps launch Ukrainian-language YouTube channel", 16 June 2022, ProQuest 2677615627. Quote: "A YouTube channel dedicated to entertaining Ukrainian children displaced by the war is to launch on 1 July [2022] ... offer pre-school and primary school-aged refugee children across the UK and Europe entertainment in their own language and will also house shows from Ukrainian producers, including Brave Bunnies ... The ad-free YouTube channel ... Everyone involved has given up their time and rights to their content for nothing ... It really shows that the creative industries can be a force for good." Also Connie Evans, The Herald (Glasgow) "YouTube's channel for Ukraine", 17 June 2022, ProQuest 2677284195. Quote: "A non-profit YouTube channel created specifically for Ukrainian children displaced by the war is set to launch ... shows by Ukrainian producers with titles such as Brave Bunnies".
- ALT1: ... that weeks after production of Brave Bunnies was suspended due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, its production coordinator had become a war correspondent? Source: Natalia Yermak, New York Times "A Cartoon Producer Turned War Reporter: Times Insider", 1 June 2022, ProQuest 2671841726. Quote: "the day before the Russian invasion began. I was working as a production coordinator at a company that produced a Ukrainian cartoon series for children called "Brave Bunnies." ... The “Brave Bunnies” team decided to put production on hold ... I started collecting and documenting stories as a form of volunteerism; I wanted to help share information about the war. Colleagues and friends connected me with various news media outlets. Soon, I was presented with an opportunity to work with The New York Times. ... About a month after my unexpected last day at "Brave Bunnies," I became a member of a team"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Musalla Complex
- Additional Reviewed to add Sunflower TV to nom: Ein Danklied sei dem Herrn + Phenotypic disparity
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Overall: Looks good to go, ALT0 is interesting and a well-formatted hook. AGF on the paywalled source. SounderBruce 04:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Reopened per WT:DYK.--Launchballer 17:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thanks for reopening this! @SounderBruce and Gatoclass: Per above, there was a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Brave Bunnies (not sure how to permalink this before it is archived) in which Gatoclass objected to the hook, feeling that the hook fact was only weakly supported by the article/sources. Gatoclass later suggested that I write a secondary article, which I have done at Sunflower TV (2600 characters prose). I don't know where to take the nomination from here. Gatoclass, what was your idea for a double nomination? (I can provide additional QPQ as needed.) – Reidgreg (talk) 15:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies Reidgreg, I meant to get back to this today and clean forgot - unfortunately it will have to wait until tomorrow now. But I'm very pleased to read that you've added the second article! - it sounds like a very worthwhile topic and I look forward to reading it :) Gatoclass (talk) 15:58, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- You need to supply a hook with both articles boldlinked and to provide two QPQs, as we are in backlog mode.--Launchballer 17:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thanks for reopening this! @SounderBruce and Gatoclass: Per above, there was a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Brave Bunnies (not sure how to permalink this before it is archived) in which Gatoclass objected to the hook, feeling that the hook fact was only weakly supported by the article/sources. Gatoclass later suggested that I write a secondary article, which I have done at Sunflower TV (2600 characters prose). I don't know where to take the nomination from here. Gatoclass, what was your idea for a double nomination? (I can provide additional QPQ as needed.) – Reidgreg (talk) 15:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
@Reidgreg:, having read through some more of the sources, it appears that only content from the United Kingdom and Ukraine was broadcast. And the rights waiving appears to be from British broadcasters waiving rights to their own programs (see, for example, this source). That means the existing hook won't work. But a new hook is needed regardless in order to fit in the new Sunflower TV article, would you like to propose an alt or two for that? Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 11:14, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Sources say the initial content was UK and Ukrainian, though more may have been added, and even children's shows are increasingly becoming multinational productions. I may have taken too broadly the statement "Everyone involved has given up their time and rights to their content" in the context of the list of 20 companies named by Broadcast Magazine ProQuest 2677615627 and BBC Studios which 'leant support'. (Checking their Wikipedia articles these include: A UK studio, a UK programming block, 5 UK producer/broadcasters, 2 UK multinational producer/distributors, a Ukrainian multinational producer/distributor, a Ukrainian producer, a Ukrainian producer/broadcaster, a French multinational producer/distributor, a Canadian multinational producer/distributor, and 4 US multinational entertainment companies.) Granted, 'lending support' is not the same as 'waiving rights'; some of these companies apparently donated manpower, technical knowhow and other resources to set up the channel.
- Struck ALT0 and added 2 QPQ to nom. Proposing ALT2. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Brave Bunnies was among the Ukrainian children's series streamed ad-free on Sunflower TV for Ukrainian refugees across Europe, the United Kingdom and Ukraine?
- ALT2a: ... that Brave Bunnies was among the Ukrainian children's series streamed ad-free on Sunflower TV for Ukrainian refugees?
- @Gatoclass and SounderBruce: Do either of you have time to review the second article and new hooks? – Reidgreg (talk) 23:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Destiel
- ... that Olive Garden and Chili's once got in a shipping war?
- ALT1: ... that Jensen Ackles pretended not to know about Destiel?
- Source: "I'm gonna pretend like I don't know what the question was"
- https://www.tvguide.com/news/supernatural-queerbaiting-destiel-1089286/
- ALT2: ... that Destiel shippers exist in the Supernatural universe?
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- Comment ALT0 is probably the most interesting, but I'm about 60% sure the WP article needs to also refer to the spat as a shipping war for the hook to run. Also, shipping wars is a pretty niche term that might be worth a wikilink, so perhaps: ALT3: ... that Olive Garden and Chili's got in a ship war over Destiel? Based5290 :3 (talk) 18:55, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I like that rewording of ALT0. -Jessica3801 (talk) 04:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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For some reason I thought this was a GA, and it isn't, though it is quite long. So I put together a list of nits that would be nice to fix. They are not necessary to fix for the DYK, but I thought as long as I put them together I may as well leave them somewhere. At least do fix the words-that-are-not-words, please?
- "occasionally referred to as Deancas,[1] and as CasDean within the series itself" - the WP:LEAD is supposed to be a summary of the article, and these alternate names are not given elsewhere in the article body. Please give and cite.
"Supernatural debuted in 2005" - How about a brief intro - "The television series Supernatural debuted..." or even "The American television series Supernatural..." - otherwise the article doesn't explain what Supernatural is."From this episode, people began to want the two characters to become romantically involved with each other." "People" is vague, the citations say "fans"; maybe we can say that? Or "shippers"? Also the first of the three citations doesn't really mention "this episode" ("Lazarus Rising").- " At the event, Collins answered the question “Is Castiel in love with Dean?”." - and ...? How did he answer it? Kind of important.
- "This created controversy..." "This led to criticism" - the controversy led to criticism?
"...ChiCon, a fan was allegedly banned from the convention as a safety threat" - source says she was banned, and the convention confirmed, so it's not "allegedly". Did you mean "allegedly as a safety threat"?"He later returned Twitter" - "to Twitter"?"In 2014, Olive Garden posted about Dean and Sam's preferences." Specify that it's a restaurant, not a person, same with Chili's. Also what kind of "preferences" were meant? Sexual or food or something else?"When asked about Castiel, Olive Garden replied that he would eat anything from Dean's plate, which was interpreted by fans to be in reference to Castiel." - Well, yeah, when asked about Castiel, they answered about Castiel, that's kind of expected, and does not need to be specified. Or did you mean "in reference to Destiel"?"grudging [sic] respect" - doesn't need [sic], it's an established idiomthroughout: generally put the commas and periods outside the quotes, not inside, per MOS:LOGICAL"encouraging queer readings of the serious" - what?- "character's death[9][22][23][24] which also stopped Death from killing Dean.[1][4][5][25][26][27]" - wow, that's a lot of references for one sentence. Do we really need more than, say, two or three at each of those points? Can we pick the best ones?
"His final words were wishing Dean goodbye, which The Mary Sue said was significant as they identified "Hello Dean" as Castiel's catchphrase." - don't you want "Goodbye Dean" here, to make the parallel clear?There is inconsistency between the tenses used to describe this episode, "Despair". "Castiel admits" - present tense. "stopped Death", "left a handprint","final words were", "was then brought" - past tense. "Dean responds" - present tense. In general we use present, see MOS:TENSE and MOS:FICTENSE, and this article uses it in describing "Fan Fiction"" written by gay man, Robert Berens, who " - Ew - "written by gay man"? How about "written by Robert Berens, a gay man, who...""series' creators, ehilr suggesting" - what?"Fan Fiction's" perceived dismissal - logical quotes would be "Fan Fiction"'s- " they claimed that the writers were encouraging queer readings of the series and the consistent denial that the story lines exists from creators of the series" - I don't understand that. Did you mean "encouraging queer readings of the series despite the consistent denial..."? And there is a pluralization conflict in "lines exists".
"killing queer characters once they are able to be happy.[3][4][5][9][23][24][26][17]" - again, what a lot of citations. Can we pick the best - oh - maybe - three?- " it was still a major success that the series had managed to bring the relationship into the series' canon in its long run and significant use of subtext" - they said use of subtext was a major success?
"the fans which were blaming The CW, the network on which Supernatural aired, was unhelpful" - the fans was unhelpful? the blaming was unhelpful? The CW was unhelpful? Needs rephrasing for clarity."reports Vladimir Putin was planning to resign" - please specify that he was the Russian president, and that he did not, in fact, resign.GRuban (talk) 15:59, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- My understanding of MOS:ALTNAME is that as long as there are less than three alternative names, there doesn't need to be further elaboration in the body of the article. I don't think there's a source elaborating on the etymology of any of the ship names, so there wouldn't really be a good place in the body for the alt names. Based5290 :3 (talk) 08:14, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Significant enough copyediting issues identified that the article should be worked on. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:46, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not the nominator, but I've done a round of copyedits which address some of the concern above as well as some other issues (mostly for concision, in a few cases removed information I thought was poorly supported by the citations or excessively detailed). Rusalkii (talk) 19:35, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Given those edits, will you OK the DYK? And acknowledgement and gratitude to the beautiful but dangerous water spirit: признательность! --GRuban (talk) 13:24, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not the nominator, but I've done a round of copyedits which address some of the concern above as well as some other issues (mostly for concision, in a few cases removed information I thought was poorly supported by the citations or excessively detailed). Rusalkii (talk) 19:35, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Lily Vorperian
- ... that according to one reviewer, to describe Lily Vorperian's work as embroidery was akin to "calling Coco Chanel a dressmaker"?
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To say Lily Vorperian does embroidery is a bit like calling Coco Chanel a dressmaker.
Hamilton, Denise (1995-07-27). "Stitches in Time : Through Her Elaborate, Intricate Works, Lily Vorperian Keeps Alive a Centuries-Old Art Form". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 2025-04-19 – via Newspapers.com.
- ALT1: ... that embroiderer Lily Vorperian refused to sell her works in favor of loaning them to museums? Source:
But despite being offered tens of thousands of dollars for a piece, Vorperian's art is not for sale. She loans pieces to museums and cultural exhibits, but saves the rest.
Hamilton, Denise (1995-07-27). "Stitches in Time : Through Her Elaborate, Intricate Works, Lily Vorperian Keeps Alive a Centuries-Old Art Form". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 2025-04-19 – via Newspapers.com. - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Spaceship House
- Comment: Article has her listed as a possibly living person, but trawling social media reveals that she likely died in 2008. However, the NEA didn't have her marked as deceased in a recent publication, so I'm currently scouring the internet for a RS to confirm one way or the other.
GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 20:13, 23 April 2025 (UTC).
- I will do this review. DaffodilOcean (talk) 11:39, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: I have some concerns about the sourcing (outside the hook sourcing which is fine).
1. There are personal details sourced to a masters' thesis, which would not be considered a reliable source (see WP:SCHOLARSHIP). I looked into this a little as I was concerned that her husband and father have the same first name, certainly not impossible but it caught my eye.
2. Reference 6 makes mention of a piece of art depicting a logo for the, but I did not see this mentioned in the cited newspaper article. Perhaps one of the pictures shows this logo, but that would be original research.
3. Reference 8 is a clip from newspapers.com, but the clipping does not mention Volperian's work.
4. I also don't think it's necessary to cite her daughter's dissertation to indicate the family connection (reference 10).
The article has some sentences that could use editing. For example, 'She carried on embroidering in her adult life and after her move to the United States and, in 1986, took part in a folk arts program in Los Angeles', has and odd combination of 'and' and commas that make it hard to follow. @GreenLipstickLesbian: - can you address these issues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DaffodilOcean (talk • contribs) 12:24, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GreenLipstickLesbian: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 15:14, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
@DaffodilOcean: Urgh, computer crashed after I'd finished writing this. Hopefully I can re-construct my work:
- Ah, I was wondering if somebody might bring this up! I agree that the fact it's a master's thesis isn't ideal, but if it helps, I'm not treating it as one - I'm treating it as the interview with Vorperian that it is. Crap for notability, obviously, but hopefully reliable enough for the uncontentious claims that Vorperian makes about herself and that were paraphrased by the student. So that means no claims about the impact of her work on Armenian art, no claims about who nominated her for the award, and no more broad facts about Armenian embroidery itself - but saying that she had three siblings, her parent's names and occupations, and who she married? Again, hopefully reliable enough, as long as I keep one eye on what is DUE given that is is roughly one level up from a SPS as far as that goes. The fact that her husband and father both had the same fairly common name doesn't raise any red flags for me, though the name is more typically romanized as Harutyun. Does this help?
- Reference 6: Ah, you're totally right on this; accidentally swapped two sources! It was in the 1982-1996 biographies of award winners compiled by the NEA. PDF numbers are a little off (there it's listed as 54 through 55), sorry, but on a related note I actually managed to find a Facebook post by the ARS showing the embroidery itself! Sorry, I know one of your other concerns was over-referencing, but I mean... it's gorgeous and it has the date she made it.
- Refence 8: Mind reading this again? Second column, second paragraph, lists Vorperian as one of the artists in the exhibit and details the time, location, and hosts that the other source omitted to mention.
- Reference 10: I see your point here, and I can remove it if you'd like. However, I would prefer to keep it in, as it's just another source confirming that Rita and Lily are related. Not that I have a mistrust for passing mentions in the captions of newspaper photographs or anything...
And yeah I know my writing sucks, sorry. I attribute it the fact that I learnt half my English grammar from Spanish and Japanese classes, and the other half through osmosis. If I can figure out a less awkward way to put things, I'll try, but, being honestly, my ulterior motive for any DYK submission is that it gets me a few free copy editors. I've split the example you listed into two sentences, hopefully that makes it better? GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 18:28, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- 1. For the master's thesis, I would find better sources than that for the statement about 'several exhibits in the California area'.
- 2. Thanks for updating the reference for the logo. However, Facebook is not a reliable source, so I would remove that. Please also correct the sentence that now says '..though om 1990...'.
- 3. This is my mistake, I did miss the brief note about her exhibit.
- 4. I would remove the dissertation. Her daughter's dissertation has no bearing on Lily's work and its presence here just seems to promote Rita's work.
- DaffodilOcean (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- @GreenLipstickLesbian: What else needs doing?--Launchballer 16:05, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've got some thoughts here; I'm sorry I'm being a bit slow, IRL responsibilities have had to take precedence over Wikipedia editing for the moment. @DaffodilOcean:
- 1. I've taken the sentence out until I find sources from the time/newspapers.com uploads more 1980s/1990s Californian newspapers.
- 2. Fixed the typo, but no, I'm not going to take out the facebook source on that basis. Facebook isn't a generally unreliable source - WP:FACEBOOK has the current community consensus on it. Facebook hosts a large amount of user generated material which is by and large somewhere between unreliable and very unreliable, but individual posts are only as reliable as the poster. In the case of the ARS, they should be reliable for the date a piece of artwork that was made for them. The sentence's previous construction was clumsy, with the "as of x date" styling, and citing the actual year allows me to avoid that.
- 4. I've thought about this one - readers aren't going to look at an unlinked referenced that is auto-collapsed for most viewers now, and on one of those articles that (while important!) will maybe only get five or so non-bot views a year, so I'm not too worried that it'll have any promotional effect on her work. That being said, a passing mention in a newspaper caption, especially one that's not really about Rita, isn't sufficiently reliable, from my POV, that I wouldn't want to try and confirm it in a better source. Especially given that the newspaper was published well before Rita did anything noteworthy! I know, when I first saw that connection, I spent quite a bit of time figuring out it it was the same Rita, or just another Armenian women from the same area with a similar last name, and I'd like not to make other editors follow the same path. I'd obviously like to replace the dissertation with a higher quality source, but given that she's a borderline notable academic (the award pushed her over the line for me, but the 2013 AFD no consensused for a reason), I don't think such a source is going to be available. For BLP reasons, I'd like to keep Rita's self-identification as Lily's daughter referenced for now. Alternatively, I'd remove the reference to her having a daughter at all - but then it's very likely that somebody would add the fact back in anyway, and given that it's true, I can't really in good faith revert such a change. Lesser of two less than ideal situations, in my book. GreenLipstickLesbian💌🦋 05:38, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- @GreenLipstickLesbian:. Thanks for continuing to work on this.
- 3. The link you provide justifying Facebook is for external links, where Facebook may be appropriate. However, Facebook is user-generated content and is not appropriate as a reliable source (see WP:RSSELF). Please remove the link.
- 4. You have a detail from a reliable source about Lily's daughter. There is no reason for user-generated content to support the statement.
DaffodilOcean (talk) 14:00, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Erotic Probiotic 2
... that Nourished by Time recorded Erotic Probiotic 2 while sick with COVID-19 in his parents' basement?
- ALT1: ... that Nourished by Time recorded Erotic Probiotic 2 in his parents' basement? Source: "a strange and superb debut album that Brown wrote and recorded in his parents’ Baltimore basement"
- ALT2: ... that Nourished by Time recorded Erotic Probiotic 2 while sick with COVID-19? Source: "he recorded during a bout with Covid"
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Overall: Article 5x expanded. QPQ is not required as nominator has less than 5 nominations. Passes earwig, hook is interesting, cited inline, and verified. Good to go. Toadboy123 (talk) 14:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- comment: do we have a timeline for this? it doesn't say specifically in the source that he was still living with his parents when he created the album, nor is the word basement used in the citation. i'd also add that the article has citation overkill in the 'composition' section.--Plifal (talk) 12:32, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
Agree this hook suffers from WP:SYNTH. We need some alternate hooks. Cielquiparle (talk) 13:10, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- My apologies, thanks for catching that. I've added two alt hooks. मल्ल (talk) 19:06, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 21
[edit]2025 papal conclave
... that any baptized Catholic man may be elected pope in the ongoing conclave?- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Furhat (robot)
- Source: Almond, Kyle; O'Key, Sean (7 March 2013). "The Papal Conclave". CNN. Archived from the original on 13 March 2013. Retrieved 29 April 2025.
Surtsicna (talk) 22:59, 27 April 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review as I'm involved in the article, but I added a source. It would be nice to run this in the next week or so if possible. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 14:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- Also not a review, but strictly speaking isn't this true for every papal conclave, like, ever? Juxlos (talk) 12:08, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- But most people wouldn't know it. Bremps... 04:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- What?! There's another conclave already? Don't we have enough papadam? -- SashiRolls 🌿 · 🍥 12:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Need some new hooks proposed here for obvious reasons. @Surtsicna: ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 23:34, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
This is a review on the content side and a proposition of new hooks on the hook side.
- It was new enough with sufficient QPQ provided at the time of nomination.
- There are two uncited passages,
He conducted his first public and private audiences during the week before his inauguration, which included the press, the diplomatic corps, Eastern Churches, and heads of the dicasteries of the Roman Curia.
and a Reactions item that leads to a listing article. I'd be fine with the latter. The former needs attention (and I understand this is a new part of the article comparatively). - Proposing two new hooks and pinging the nominator and previous contributors @SashiRolls, Darth Stabro, Juxlos, Bremps, and Surtsicna: to comment on them: Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 09:31, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the 2025 papal conclave was the largest ever?
- ALT2: ... that between the time that white smoke was seen at the 2025 papal conclave and the announcement of a new pope, the crowd in St. Peter's Square swelled from 40,000 to approximately 150,000 people?
- @Surtsicna: Please address the uncited passages. When you've done that, I'll review the hooks.--Launchballer 07:04, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sorted. Thanks, Launchballer. Surtsicna (talk) 11:14, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- That's fine. The hooks aren't. ALT1 fails WP:DYKHOOK, which demands that "Superlative hooks such as first/biggest/most [...] require sourcing that discusses the set in some detail; a throwaway comment in an article about the subject is not sufficient." and ALT2 puts the claim in wikivoice, while the article attributes to the Italian law enforcement.--Launchballer 11:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sorted. Thanks, Launchballer. Surtsicna (talk) 11:14, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Surtsicna: Please address the uncited passages. When you've done that, I'll review the hooks.--Launchballer 07:04, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 23
[edit]James Koh Cher Siang
- ... that James Koh Cher Siang was one of the first nine President's Scholars after Singapore gained independence in 1965?
- Source: This is the first occasion that the scholarships, formerly known as the Yang di-Pertuan Negara Scholarships, are being awarded since Singapore achieved independence in August, 1965. The winners are...Koh Cher Siang, 20, (Outram Secondary and Raffles Institution)... "Nine top pupils receive the President's Scholarship". The Straits Times. 24 April 1966. p. 13. https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/straitstimes19660424-1.2.20.41
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Overall: Needs some work per the comments above. Other than that, all is good. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:38, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @BenTanXiaoMing: Please address the above.--Launchballer 14:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Apologies for the delayed response. The nine awarded could be considered as the inaugural acceptees as the scholarship was renamed after Singapore's independence. An alternate hook is suggested too. Thanks! BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 16:08, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that James Koh Cher Siang was one of the first nine recipients of the newly renamed President's Scholarship, following the separation of Singapore from Malaysia in 1965?
- That's worse. I think what @Jeromi Mikhael: was getting at (and they are free to correct me on this) is that the hook does not meet WP:DYKINT, and I agree (something's going to be first). ALT1 is a more verbose version of ALT0.--Launchballer 08:34, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 24
[edit]David Viaene
- ... that in college, football player David Viaene was able to run a mile in equipment faster than some of his team's wide receivers, even though he weighed 285 pounds (129 kg)?
- Source: Post Crescent
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To do QPQ within 24 hours.Credit Gonzo fan2007 for coming up with the hook.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:23, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 20:46, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Expanded from 495 to 3634 seven days before nom. Found a few fixes I had to do that the GAR didn't appear to notice, but otherwise nothing of note beyond article being good to go. ミラP@Miraclepine 21:44, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
BeanieFan11, I'm not one to regularly pull up American football hooks on DYKINT, but you need to know what "wide receiver" means to find this interesting, and (unlike terms like "score a touchdown" or "kicker", where you can get some idea from the word alone) it's not immediately guessable that it means "fastest player on the field". I think some workshopping is needed. Thanks, though, for introducing me to the term "long snapper". ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:50, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: To be fair, I thought outsiders would be enticed by having to link to the term? After all, readers who hover their mouse on the link would know what exactly the linked item means, but then only on a PC. If that's not enough, I have a few ALTs (these are the only ones I was able to think of, and the second half is if enough people are familiar with the bench press):
- ALT1A: ... that as the strongest player of his college football team, David Viaene was able to lift over 500 pounds (230 kg) of weights? He is the team's strongest player, bench pressing 500 pounds + In the weight room, he has bench pressed 505 pounds
- ALT1B: ... that as the strongest player of his college football team, David Viaene was able to bench press 500 pounds (230 kg)? He is the team's strongest player, bench pressing 500 pounds + In the weight room, he has bench pressed 505 pounds
- ALT2A: ... that in college, football player David Viaene was able to lift over 500 pounds (230 kg) of weights? In the weight room, he has bench pressed 505 pounds
- ALT2B: ... that in college, football player David Viaene was able to bench press 500 pounds (230 kg)? In the weight room, he has bench pressed 505 pounds
- ミラP@Miraclepine 00:19, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- I tend to think MOS:NOFORCELINK applies in these cases. I.E: you should be able to figure out meanings frok the hook. I'll leave the suggestions for BF11's approval. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:22, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Well, I'm not sure printability and offline reading are as important a use for the main page as an article for NOFORCELINK to apply to DYK hooks (after all, DYK rules and article P&Gs are different sometimes), but we should take that to WT:DYK. Still, thank you. I'll let Beanie decide on the hooks. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:52, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm fine with any of the proposed alt hooks. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:24, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Well, I'm not sure printability and offline reading are as important a use for the main page as an article for NOFORCELINK to apply to DYK hooks (after all, DYK rules and article P&Gs are different sometimes), but we should take that to WT:DYK. Still, thank you. I'll let Beanie decide on the hooks. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:52, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- I tend to think MOS:NOFORCELINK applies in these cases. I.E: you should be able to figure out meanings frok the hook. I'll leave the suggestions for BF11's approval. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:22, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 25
[edit]Matthew Wild
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that when Matthew Wild directed Wagner's Tannhäuser, he made its main character gay?- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wang Huning
- Comment: Driveby nom per tipoff at ERRORS.
Launchballer 17:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
- What I said on ERRORS was that I was afraid something like this would happen. How is that interesting? I don't believe he would have been awarded "best staging of the year" for something that harmless. Matthew told a complex (fictive but based on real lives) story of a man fleeing the Nazis, becoming a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and professor of literature in California c. 1960, suffering a creative crisis and leaving everything, returning and then coming out causing a scandal at that time. This complex story-telling in analogy to the medieval character in a crisis and expelled by society (invented in the 19th century) won him the award, but is too complex for DYK rules. Therefore I intentionally did not nominate. Readers might rather be interested in Wild coming from from South Africa and the production at the Frankfurt Opera, again voted "best opera house". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that critics described the South African director Matthew Wild's production of Tannhäuser at the Frankfurt Opera as a "staging of the year"? (Source: BR Klassik: "Several productions have won the title of "Performance of the Year": Richard Wagner's "Tannhäuser" by Matthew Wild (Frankfurt Opera), etc.." (using Google Translate). Note: the WP article's editors have translated it as "staging of the year", which is likely to be more accurate than Google). Storye book (talk) 09:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's more to my liking, but it isn't just some critics, but an annual award from Opernwelt that gets to the news. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:51, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- like this --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:53, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1a: ... that Opernwelt gave the South African director Matthew Wild's production of Tannhäuser at the Frankfurt Opera its Staging of the Year award? Storye book (talk) 10:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that critics described the South African director Matthew Wild's production of Tannhäuser at the Frankfurt Opera as a "staging of the year"? (Source: BR Klassik: "Several productions have won the title of "Performance of the Year": Richard Wagner's "Tannhäuser" by Matthew Wild (Frankfurt Opera), etc.." (using Google Translate). Note: the WP article's editors have translated it as "staging of the year", which is likely to be more accurate than Google). Storye book (talk) 09:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just as a comment and not a review, but honestly I do think that the original (and now struck) hook was the most interesting option and perhaps the one most likely to get non-specialist readers. I'm fine with ALT1a, but in terms of attracting readership it is admittedly weaker. @Launchballer: Do you find ALT1a fine, or is a new direction needed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:41, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that the original was far better, though can live with ALT1a.--Launchballer 10:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Chocolate crinkle
- ... that the chocolate crinkle (pictured) was invented by Helen Fredell from Saint Paul, Minnesota, and its recipe was first published in a Betty Crocker cookbook during the early 1950s?
- Source: #1: "The first chocolate crinkle cookie recipe can be traced to a woman named Helen Fredell in St. Paul, Minnesota in the early 1950s. The recipe was originally published in a Betty Crocker cookbook, which explains that it was a cookie Mrs. Fredell served in her home, and guests couldn’t resist taking the recipe home and trying it for themselves." Betty Crocker; #2: "Credit for the original chocolate crinkle cookie recipe goes to Helen Fredell of St. Paul, Minnesota; it was published in a Betty Crocker cookbook in the early 1950s." Taste of Home
- Reviewed:
MaPhilIndo (talk) 00:00, 30 April 2025 (UTC).
- I'm convinced there is a lot of room for improvement in this hook. Most types of food were invented by someone and ended up in cookbooks. (t · c) buidhe 22:36, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: How do either of these options sound?
- ALT1 ... that the chocolate crinkle (pictured) was the subject of a study by the Philippines' Department of Science and Technology?
- ALT1a ... that Philippines' Department of Science and Technology made a study on the chocolate crinkle (pictured)?
- ALT2 ... that although the chocolate crinkle (pictured) was invented in Minnesota, it is more popular in the Philippines?
- ALT1/ALT1a is technically imprecise as it is not the DOST itself that made a study about it but rather one of the agencies under it: I will leave it to you if ALT1/ALT1a remain suitable or not. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:25, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer ALT2. ALT2 is better than the other ALTs. MaPhilIndo (talk) 07:40, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Nomination placed on hold pending the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chocolate crinkle. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 21:27, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
The AFD was closed as keep. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:42, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: How do either of these options sound?
Articles created/expanded on April 26
[edit]Seitaro Hattori
- ... that Seitaro Hattori's election in 2021 has unified the three factions of Liberal Democratic Party in Fukuoka Prefecture for the first time despite being independent?
- Source: this is the article before the expansion (157 characters (23 words)). Also, I don't know how to phrase this hook. Open for suggestion.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vatican.va
- Comment: NHK, Asahi Shimbun.
Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:29, 26 April 2025 (UTC).
- @Miminity: Not a review (yet) but the hook doesn't meet WP:DYKINT.--Launchballer 10:49, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 27
[edit]Tommy Akingbesote, Kyonte Hamilton
- ... that American football players Tommy Akingbesote and Kyonte Hamilton grew up in the same community, play the same position, and were both selected in the seventh round of the 2025 NFL draft?
- Source: NYT (paywalled - can email you the password if you need to verify it)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Richard L. Morrill & Template:Did you know nominations/Margono Soekarjo (1/2)
- Comment: To do QPQs within two days.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC).
Reviewing... will post comments by tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 03:27, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Although the hook appears to be true, how do we verify it? It would require the reader to look at both articles simultaneously to check citations, rather than just one article. That seems to be contrary to WP:DYKHFC? Flibirigit (talk) 03:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Just Say Yes (Ted)
- ... that while auditioning for the first episode of Ted, Scott Grimes (pictured) was told to "[think of] All in the Family"?
- Reviewed:
Crystal Drawers (talk) 23:42, 27 April 2025 (UTC).
New enough and long enough. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. Hook fact is in article and reasonably interesting (needed adjustment in hook presentation as the quote includes brackets from source). Image is appropriately licensed for Main Page use. Good to go. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 20:31, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
@Crystal Drawers and Sammi Brie: I have no idea what this hook is trying to get at, and I doubt many non-Americans would either. Could we have a couple of ALTs suggested? (Also, the hook fact doesn't need to be in the lead per WP:LEADREL, but that's beyond DYK's purview.) ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:40, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Sure, here’s one I think could work
- ALT1: ... that actress Alanna Ubach had to audition several times for the first episode of Ted?
- Source: https://www.thewrap.com/ted-cast-auditions-max-burkholder-alanna-ubach-seth-macfarlane-peacock/ Crystal Drawers (talk) 11:05, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 28
[edit]Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen
... that "Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen" (Now Spring wants to greet us) is a song with text freely transcribed after Neidhart von Reuental in 1878 which became a popular Volkslied in the 1920s (pictured)?Source: several- Reviewed: Kentuck Knob
Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 5 May 2025 (UTC). I will review Template:Did you know nominations/Kentuck Knob. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Passing comment: Hi Gerda, nice article once again. But I'm afraid most readers will have no idea what is going on in the hook. Bremps... 17:01, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- Asking 4meter4 if he could propose a new hook, or possibly expand the article to include additional possible hook options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:23, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bremps: Does anything in the article stand out as a possible hook suggestion? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:45, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- This song was believed to been medieval but actually was a 19th century paraphrase, which became popular with the Youth movement (1920s) and - most surprising - is still popular today. Sorry that it is complex. I see a double quirkiness in it - the belief that is was medieval (but still popular today) and the unexpected interest in the 1920s (but still popular today). When a topic has a complex history why not speak/teach about that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- That information about it being a paraphrase is not currently in the article. If it's added to the article and a clear non-technical hook based on it is proposed, I think it could work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the article: "Ströse published a poem collection in 1878, Deutsche Minne aus alter Zeit – ausgewählte Lieder der Minnesänger des Mittelalters, presenting medieval poems in his free transcription." - bolding by me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Trying to please, I changed the verb to "paraphrased" in the sentence regarding this paticular song, one from that collection. Please help wording a hook, - perhaps you are able to word that for a long time it was still believed to be medieval. The 1920 youth movement should be present to connect to the image, also it seems worth knowing that for decades, the song remained in the background, but then hit some nerve. Please let's get this up soon, or spring will be over. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
ALT0a: ... that "Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen" (Now Spring wants to greet us) is a 1878 song, paraphrasing a medieval poem, which became popular with the 1920s youth movement (pictured)?- That's a bit hard to read. How does the following reword sound? Special thanks to MallardTV for the suggestion, courtesy ping to Bremps too:
- ALT0b: ... that the 1878 German spring song "Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen" (score pictured) was inspired by a medieval poem and gained fame in the 1920s youth movement?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:51, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comprehensible and interesting. Let's roll. Bremps... 02:56, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bremps: Thank you. I guess this is ready for a full review now? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:50, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies if I wasn't clear, but all I was doing was making passing comments. Bremps... 04:22, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Bremps: Thank you. I guess this is ready for a full review now? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:50, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- I bet that will land at ERRORS for saying "inspired" instead of "paraphrased", and you left out the quirky possibility that it was taken for medieval. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:00, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comprehensible and interesting. Let's roll. Bremps... 02:56, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- That's a bit hard to read. How does the following reword sound? Special thanks to MallardTV for the suggestion, courtesy ping to Bremps too:
- That information about it being a paraphrase is not currently in the article. If it's added to the article and a clear non-technical hook based on it is proposed, I think it could work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:37, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- This song was believed to been medieval but actually was a 19th century paraphrase, which became popular with the Youth movement (1920s) and - most surprising - is still popular today. Sorry that it is complex. I see a double quirkiness in it - the belief that is was medieval (but still popular today) and the unexpected interest in the 1920s (but still popular today). When a topic has a complex history why not speak/teach about that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
Full review still needed for ALT0b. The other two proposals have been struck due to grammar and readability issues. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:39, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that "Nun will der Lenz uns grüßen", a 19th-century spring song paraphrasing a minnesanger's poem, became popular in the 1920s when it was printed as the minnesanger's song (pictured)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:22, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 29
[edit]Italian brainrot
- ... that Italian surrealist AI-generated images of creatures are popular on TikTok in Europe?
- Reviewed:
Thegoofhere (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but I'd like to point out some things for the benefit of the first-time nominator here. The article in question is linked in bold from the hook, which I've done. Thegoofhere, there is also a failed verification tag that will need addressing before the page is passed. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 22:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- The failed verification tag has been remedied, albeit with a questionable source. Ca talk to me! 09:48, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on April 30
[edit]Saigon Port FC
- ... that Saigon Port FC won the 2001–02 V-League, but their success was short-lived as they faced relegation in the next season?
- ALT1: ... that Saigon Port FC won the 2001–02 V-League; However, in the following season, they ended up getting relegation? Source: https://dantri.com.vn/the-thao/clb-tphcm-doi-ten-vaxuong-hang-1247860096.htm
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First nomination
KhoaNguyen1 (talk) 09:01, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
- Passing by, this struck me as a decent wording of the hook: ALT2 ... that Saigon Port FC was relegated from the V-League a year after they were league champions? BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
I was about to review this, but the article is in dire need of a copyediting. Pinging our resident soccer expert SounderBruce to take a look at the article, or perhaps asking for help from sports expert BeanieFan11 in helping copyedit the article. FWIW, if this is to proceed, ALT2 sounds okay, but it might be a good idea to either link or explain "relegated" for the benefit of our non-soccer fan readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:40, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- This seems to be a content split from Ho Chi Minh City FC and honestly could just be merged back into that article. SounderBruce 18:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ping SounderBruce, I think Saigon Port FC should be split from HCMCT FC and have its main article, as this club was regarded as one of the
bestmost notable clubs in Vietnam around the 90s, many sources that talk about this club before and after it dissolved [5][6][7][8], what do you think? KhoaNguyen1 (talk) 05:13, 12 May 2025 (UTC)- This doesn't seem like a case of a phoenix club or spinoff, and if Ho Chi Minh City FC is claiming pre-2009 titles then they are a continuation and thus would include the full history of Saigon Port FC in their article. I won't be able to provide further input, as I am very busy, so I'll be dropping out of this conversation. SounderBruce 05:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I also think this should be merged.--Launchballer 10:54, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- This doesn't seem like a case of a phoenix club or spinoff, and if Ho Chi Minh City FC is claiming pre-2009 titles then they are a continuation and thus would include the full history of Saigon Port FC in their article. I won't be able to provide further input, as I am very busy, so I'll be dropping out of this conversation. SounderBruce 05:20, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ping SounderBruce, I think Saigon Port FC should be split from HCMCT FC and have its main article, as this club was regarded as one of the
- This seems to be a content split from Ho Chi Minh City FC and honestly could just be merged back into that article. SounderBruce 18:41, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
Soliloquy
- ... that Hamlet's iconic “To be, or not to be” speech might not be a true soliloquy, but a calculated act meant to deceive?
- ALT1: ... that a character does not always have to be alone for a soliloquy to happen? Source: https://liberalarts.oregonstate.edu/wlf/what-soliloquy-definition-and-examples
- Reviewed:
MallardTV Talk to me! 11:29, 30 April 2025 (UTC).
- DYK compliance check:
- Topic is encyclopedic
- Article created November 20, 2003. Qualification for DYK is per 5x expansion.
- Article is minimum length for DYK (2953 words)
- Article is well-sourced, neutral, BLP-compliant, and copyvio-free.
- Article is presentable
- All hooks are cited to a reliable source
- All hooks are short enough.
- All hooks are interesting. I am veering towards the first because the wording gives it a mysterious quality.
- Not applicable: hook does not have image
- Not applicable: QPQ not required
- RESULT:
ViperSnake151 Talk 02:41, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Reopened per WT:DYK. Big sourcing deficiencies here.--Launchballer 22:16, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Just noting that this is now at WP:GAR, so will need to go on hold anyway.--Launchballer 14:30, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 1
[edit]HNLMS De Ruyter (1935)
- ... that the Dutch light cruiser HNLMS De Ruyter (pictured) was designed by a clandistine front company supported by Nazi Germany?
- Source: "The most important German naval enterprise established in the Netherlands was the design firm of N.V. Ingenieurskantoor voor Scheepsbouw, or IvS (a front for AG Vulcan Stettin, AG Weser and Germaniawerft), founded in The Hague in 1922. Admiral Paul Behncke, commander of the post-war German Reichsmarine from 1920 to 1924, insisted that German naval design, particularly U-boat design, be continued clandestinely abroad and was the driving force behind the establishment of IvS...The Koninklijke Marine, through the association of its own personnel with these firms, received access to their technical developments while allowing the Reichsmarine and later Kriegsmarine to cover much of the financial investment.""DE RUYTER CLASS CRUISER DE RUYTER...The Koninklijke Marine turned to IvS to prepare the design of the new cruiser, intent on taking advantage of the firm’s access to recent German design developments." PG 10, 12, 18, 20 from The Royal Netherlands Navy of World War II by Ryan Noppen
- ALT1: ... that an essay contest was held to determine the design of HNLMS De Ruyter (pictured)?
- Source: "A Controversal Cruiser....A prize was offered for the best essay on the best type of cruiser for the Royal Netherlands Navy..."PG 75, Profile Warship: Her Netherlands Majesty's Ship De Ruyter by F.C. van Oosten
- ALT2: ... that the shipwreck of HNLMS De Ruyter (pictured) went missing in 2016, with the wreck's imprint on the ocean floor still visable?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: ALT2: While interesting, I listed it last as it could serve as a good hook for an article that would be otherwise unremarkable
GGOTCC 00:21, 1 May 2025 (UTC).
The article is new enough (GA on 27 April 2025), long enough (15.771 characters), has no copyright issues (per GA review), and is presentable (per readthrough and GA review). QPQ is not required. The image is used in the article and its license seems in order. The first hook is interesting, but seems incorrect because the ship was ordered in 1932, and design started before that, and Nazi Germany was established in 1933. ALT1 is interesting, but also seems incorrect, only objections to an already proposed design emerged through the essay contest, according to the article. Therefore I prefer ALT2, but I noticed that the year 2016 that is not in the article text. From the source that covers the other elements, it is not clear when exactly the discovery was made, so I approve the shorter ALT3 version. – Editør (talk) 09:48, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that the shipwreck of HNLMS De Ruyter (pictured) went missing, leaving only an imprint on the ocean floor?
- @Editør: Thank you for the response! While I do not object to ALT3, I believe thw main hook is still factual. Ship design does not end when the vessel is laid down; instead, it is a continuous effort until (and even after) she enters service. De Ruyter entered service in 1936, well after IvS was directly influenced by Nazi Germany. Even by the most conservative definitions, only the concept design of De Ruyter was finished when she was ordered in 1932. The Kriegsmarine was founded in 1935, meaning there was a solid year when IvS was funded by the Kriegsmarine as the cruiser was still being worked on. What do you think of this? Best, GGOTCC 02:51, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanation of "designed" and about the timeline. I don't think the first hook should be selected, because I think it needs further explanation to be clear. – Editør (talk) 10:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Editør: ALT3 it is? GGOTCC 10:52, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
– Editør (talk) 11:31, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
The nominator GGOTCC requested that I pull the hook from queue 7 for users to chime in about the editing dispute. See the article's edit history and Talk:HNLMS De Ruyter (1935)#Not very good article. SL93 (talk) 02:18, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Editør: ALT3 it is? GGOTCC 10:52, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your explanation of "designed" and about the timeline. I don't think the first hook should be selected, because I think it needs further explanation to be clear. – Editør (talk) 10:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)
Joanna Johnston
- ... that Jessica Rabbit's costume designer wanted a fully sequinned dress but it was too expensive to animate?
- Source: Johnston's original design for a fully sequinned dress was too expensive to animate, so it was changed to a solid red colour gown [Costume Design in TV and Film, Nancy Capaccio]
- ALT1: ... that Forrest Gump's blue shirt was custom-made to look cheap? Source: "I wanted all the plaid mismatching and one side of the collar slightly longer than the other so it looks cheap" - quoted in Los Angeles Times article, 1994.
- Reviewed:
FilmCostumes (talk) 14:51, 7 May 2025 (UTC).
- Hooks need to mention the article you want to link to. ALT0: ... that Joanna Johnston wanted Jessica Rabbit to wear a fully sequinned dress, but it was too expensive to animate? ALT1a: ... that Joanna Johnston designed Forrest Gump's blue shirt to look cheap? DS (talk) 16:30, 7 May 2025 (UTC)
- She's not bad, she's just drawn that way :) I'll review this. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am concerned about the source to text integrity in this article. The wording also borders on non-neutral at times.
- The first two sentences of the first paragraph of "Costume career" was referenced to this article, which does not mention 1977, Bermans & Nathans, or freelance work. The last sentence had no reference at all. I've added CN tags.
- "Many costumes from Johnston's early collaborations with Zemeckis have been dubbed "iconic"" - referenced to [9], which does not use the word "iconic" and does not mention Johnston. I've added a CN tag.
- "Joanna Johnston coined the term "Hollywood Lift"" - while "lift" or "lifted" appear as adjectives in the source, the term "Hollywood Lift" does not, nor does it say anything about Johnston coining it. I've removed this and revised the sentence.
- For The Witches, this ref supports that she used Powell as inspiration, but does not mention Cruella de Vil or 101 Dalmations. Removed also.
- It's a very bad sign for there to be this many issues not even halfway through the article. Respectfully, FilmCostumes, I have to ask - did you use AI to generate your version of this article? Some things are accurate to the source, but there are other statements that are so off that I have to wonder how they came to be. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:56, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback - PMC no, it's not AI generated! I did do it in a bit of a rush, and re-structured it from chronological to thematic, so clearly I need to tidy up my references better and remove some of my own interpretations. Apologies - will work on improving it! FilmCostumes (talk) 08:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, wow, yeah, you need to remove anything that's your own interpretation, in any article you've written. We have to limit ourselves to reflecting what's in reliable sources, per our policy on original research. It's an improvement, I still have some concerns about neutrality in the current version. There are quite a few quotes that seem unnecessary and create an editorial rather than a neutral, encyclopedic tone. For example, we don't need to quote a film blogger calling Hellraiser an "iconic nightmare of 1980s cinema". It doesn't add to the understanding of Johnston's role as a costume designer, but distracts from it by switching focus to some guy's description on the film. A few other issues on further reading:
- "Forrest's costumes were praised for their "consistency through the decades"" - "were praised for" makes it seem like lots of critics said similar things, but you've only cited one
- "For the infantry, they had about 800 costumes made specially, so they could be distressed and broken down" the source supports the number of uniforms, and it supports that the costumes were altered to reflect the ongoing war, but I don't see that the source necessarily connects the number of the costumes to the distressing process. It doesn't really talk about the infantry costumes in the paragraph that's about the breakdown - it's about Albert and the officers.
- Why is Lincoln introduced after it's first mentioned?
- "The "fashion forward" wedding dress" editorializing quote, at the least it needs attribution
- "withstand the impact of high-altitude stunts" - the source seems to suggest it was just the one stunt, but you could also mine the detail about the stuntman's disintegrated off-the-rack suit
- While I'm here...I'm trying to limit myself to DYK-level critiques, but from a reader's perspective I think the thematic rather than chronological organization of the article is frustrating. It puts things out of order (why are we seeing her second Oscar before her first?) and intermixes analysis (ex. from Landis) with the biography. I'm not asking you to tear the whole thing up here and now, but I think it's worth pointing out. I apologize if I'm coming off as harsh. Genuinely, I think what you're writing about is important and interesting (I'm known for my own work on fashion articles). If I didn't think it was worth doing right, I'd have complained and moved on. But I think you potentially have the bones of a Good Article here, not just a DYK, so to me it's worth identifying. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, wow, yeah, you need to remove anything that's your own interpretation, in any article you've written. We have to limit ourselves to reflecting what's in reliable sources, per our policy on original research. It's an improvement, I still have some concerns about neutrality in the current version. There are quite a few quotes that seem unnecessary and create an editorial rather than a neutral, encyclopedic tone. For example, we don't need to quote a film blogger calling Hellraiser an "iconic nightmare of 1980s cinema". It doesn't add to the understanding of Johnston's role as a costume designer, but distracts from it by switching focus to some guy's description on the film. A few other issues on further reading:
- Thanks for the feedback - PMC no, it's not AI generated! I did do it in a bit of a rush, and re-structured it from chronological to thematic, so clearly I need to tidy up my references better and remove some of my own interpretations. Apologies - will work on improving it! FilmCostumes (talk) 08:14, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- I am concerned about the source to text integrity in this article. The wording also borders on non-neutral at times.
- She's not bad, she's just drawn that way :) I'll review this. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:50, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
@FilmCostumes and Premeditated Chaos: What else needs doing here?--Launchballer 11:07, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- The DYK issues (not the last point) I called out in my latest comment have not been addressed, so... all of those. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 14:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Right, I'll close this in a week if these aren't addressed.
--Launchballer 15:00, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer and Premeditated Chaos: I'm just seeing these comments - honestly very helpful thanks. I'll work on this article and come back with a nomination later once it's in better shape. FilmCostumes (talk) 09:04, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 2
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James Bunbury White
- ... that the first North Carolina senator from Columbus County, James Bunbury White, was the founder of Whitesville, North Carolina?
- Source: Wilcox, George W. (May 1993). "Profile of an Irish Lady: Bridget Day Beatty" (PDF). Lower Cape Fear Historical Society, Inc. Bulletin. XXXVIII (3). Wilmington, North Carolina.
"Chap. LX" (PDF). Carolana.
"Cape Fear Pride Whiteville: Founder James B. White". WWAY3. March 5, 2009.
Aneirinn (talk) 17:47, 6 May 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: The hook says, he was the founder of Whitesville, but the lead speaks of Whiteville. - A typo? Munfarid1 (talk) 13:58, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Smashing Frank
- ... that Smashing Frank is the first Hong Kong film produced through crowdfunding?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the film Smashing Frank's title pays tribute to Leonardo DiCaprio's character Frank Abagnale from Catch Me If You Can? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that the screenplay for Smashing Frank was developed from an assignment in a filmmaking course? Source: [3]
- ALT3: ... that Fruit Chan was slated to produce the crowdfunded film Smashing Frank, but had to exit because the limited budget could not cover him? Source: [4]
- ALT4: ... that the director of Smashing Frank cited Chris Stuckmann's Shelby Oaks as inspiration for using crowdfunding to finance the film's production? Source: [5]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kwek Leng Joo
—👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 14:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC).
References
- ^ 吳霆俊 (11 April 2025). "搗破法蘭克|談善言林家熙楊偲泳大爆兒時反叛史 岑珈其為易角疑雲解畫". Hong Kong Economic Times (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
《搗破法蘭克》作為首部眾籌成功的電影,有望為電影發展殺出新血路。
[As the first successfully crowdfunded film, Smashing Frank is expected to pave a new path for film development.] - ^ 鄭思珩 (7 May 2022). "《搗破法蘭克》以眾籌抗主流 奪回創作話語權【專訪】". The Culturist (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
劇名中的「法蘭克」源自電影《捉智雙雄》(Catch Me If You Can)中狄卡比奧所飾演的少年詐欺犯法蘭克(Frank Abagnale)
[The "Frank" in the title comes from the character Frank Abagnale, a young con artist played by [Leonardo] DiCaprio in the film Catch Me If You Can.] - ^ 馮曉彤 (30 April 2022). "專訪《搗破法蘭克》編導蔡康凝——眾籌拍戲,講香港年輕人的憤怒與反抗". Hong Kong Inmedia (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
《搗破法蘭克》最初是導演班的功課,經過導師陳果多番指點修改,最終在2019年頭寫成。
[Smashing Frank was originally a course assignment for the director, and after multiple revisions guided by mentor Fruit Chan, it was finally completed in early 2019.] - ^ 嚴嘉栢 (18 April 2025). "《搗破法蘭克》換角、資訊發布惹議 眾籌開戲變數多 「不敢說是一條新路」". Ming Pao (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
2022年眾籌時,陳果陪同蔡康凝接受媒體訪問,並表示擔任監製;惟今年3月公布上映消息後,才發現監製不再是陳果。蔡康凝解釋,陳果在開拍前一星期仍給予意見,幫忙修改劇本,「如果我們本身籌了整個項目450萬(港元)的話,我們找阿果(陳果),其實他就可以完全掌控這件事。但是到了現在是一半一半,如果我們想阿果做監製,我們都需要出份糧給他,但是錢不夠,還有那時候阿果有很多其他commitment」。
[During the crowdfunding in 2022, Fruit Chan accompanied Trevor Choi for media interviews and stated he was serving as a producer; however, after the announcement of the release in March this year, it was revealed that Fruit Chan was no longer the producer. Trevor Choi explained that Fruit Chan was still providing feedback a week before shooting began and helped revise the script. "If we had originally raised the entire project budget of HK$4.5 million, we could have had Fruit completely in charge. But now it’s half and half. If we want him as a producer, we need to pay him, but the money isn’t enough, and at that time he had many other commitments."] - ^ 嚴嘉栢 (18 April 2025). "《搗破法蘭克》換角、資訊發布惹議 眾籌開戲變數多 「不敢說是一條新路」". Ming Pao (in Chinese). Retrieved 1 May 2025.
蔡康凝表示,《搗破法蘭克》眾籌做法參考對象有二:美國影評YouTuber斯托克曼(Chris Stuckmann)及香港導演趙羅尼。斯托克曼的頻道訂閱數字目前約200萬,2022年3月宣布眾籌拍電影Shelby Oaks,僅用文字和短片講解概念,24小時內達成眾籌目標25萬美元(約195萬港元),最終超額,籌得逾139萬美元(約1084萬港元),2024年電影上映,比原定計劃遲一年。
[Trevor Choi stated that there were two references for the crowdfunding approach of Smashing Frank: American film critic YouTuber Chris Stuckmann and Hong Kong director Ronnie Chiu. Stuckmann's channel currently has about 2 million subscribers. In March 2022, he announced a crowdfunding campaign for the film Shelby Oaks, using only text and short videos to explain the concept. The campaign reached its goal of $250,000 (approximately HK$1.95 million) within 24 hours, ultimately exceeding expectations and raising over $1.39 million (approximately HK$10.84 million), with the film set to be released in 2024, a year later than originally planned.]
Articles created/expanded on May 3
[edit]Torta caprese
- ... that according to one hypothesis, Torta caprese was first created for the Italian-American mafia? Source: Davies, Emiko (25 October 2016). "The Crazy Good Flourless Chocolate Cake With an Even Crazier Backstory". Food52. Archived from the original on 24 January 2025. Retrieved 16 March 2025.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1981 Brooklyn County District Attorney election
- Comment: Another cake DYK.
Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 3 May 2025 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:19, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:42, 3 May 2025 (UTC)
As flagged at WT:DYK, I am uncomfortable with the sourcing for this DYK hook. It's hardly a "hypothesis" but rather more like an "urban legend" that no one will seriously "test". When you go back to the sources, they discuss the claim very vaguely and unconvincingly. This is precisely the kind of claim that lands at WP:ERRORS. It's really confusing within the article itself as well – are we saying that the cake originated in Capri, but that it's possible the Italian-American mafia might have invented it in the United States? @Vacant0, BeanieFan11, History6042, and Chiswick Chap: Pinging. Cielquiparle (talk) 21:34, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle, BeanieFan11, and Vacant0: How does this ALT sound? ALT1 ... that the Torta caprese (pictured) has been referred to as "one of history's most fortunate mistakes?" Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:47, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me! Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 11:18, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 hook looks OK but the article is still not OK. It currently says,
"It originates from the island of Capri, however its story is disputed."
We are stating in wikivoice that the cake's origins in the island of Capri are a FACT (citing just one source, an Australian foodie channel). And then we're saying the origins are "disputed" and uses words like "hypothesis". It's clumsy and misleading, almost like we're saying this is a deep academic debate between historians when in fact it's just food journalists and recipe writers writing breezy magazine stories – which is fine but then let's revise to present it more like it is (urban myth? pop culture? meme? but not science and not serious history). And if the encyclopedic entry is stating as fact that the cake originated in Capri, are there other sources we could cite? Until it's fixed I frankly am not sure it's main page or even GA-worthy. Maybe that's harsh but that's what some critics will say at WP:ERRORS on the day...and it's a picture hook so it gets extra scrutiny. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 hook looks OK but the article is still not OK. It currently says,
- Sounds good to me! Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 11:18, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Cielquiparle, BeanieFan11, and Vacant0: How does this ALT sound? ALT1 ... that the Torta caprese (pictured) has been referred to as "one of history's most fortunate mistakes?" Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:47, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 4
[edit]Deportation and detention of American citizens in the second Trump administration
- ... that Jose Hermosillo was detained for 10 days by the United States for entering the country illegally despite the fact that he hadn't entered illegally and was an American citizen?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This was submitted a little over a week (created on May 4 but submitted on May 12) but I wasn't sure was any flexibility on that. But it has expanded 5x since May 5 so maybe that is good enough to qualify.
Remember (talk) 21:01, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
- Support, and thanks. Btyner (talk) 22:16, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. @Remember: I can only speak for myself, but I don't see the submission date as the major problem. The article needs a lot of work to meet DYK and I wouldn't pass it in its current state. You could try to do a marathon cleanup session like you did before, but you would have to put a lot of time and energy into fixing this from where I stand. Perhaps you can start by replacing the massive number of quotes with simple paraphrasing. I would say that half of the quotes should not even be there because they should be easily paraphrased. Then you've got the problem of the small sections with one or two sentences. The sourcing is high quality, so that's good, but the content needs to be written for Wikipedia using house style. Viriditas (talk) 20:12, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Ok. I think I can do that. Is there a time frame that this needs to be accomplished by? Remember (talk) 21:13, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- See WP:DYKTIMEOUT. Viriditas (talk) 21:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- Got it. Ok. I think I have time. Remember (talk) 22:34, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- See WP:DYKTIMEOUT. Viriditas (talk) 21:39, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: Ok. I think I can do that. Is there a time frame that this needs to be accomplished by? Remember (talk) 21:13, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
Black dandyism
- ... that the style of Black dandyism has been worn by historic Black figures like Malcolm X, Huey P. Newton, and James Baldwin, as well as more recent celebrities like Janelle Monáe and Doechii?
- Source: "This holds from the era of zoot suits, as worn by a young Malcolm X, to Langston Hughes’ Harlem Renaissance tweeds, to the berets of Black Panthers like Huey P. Newton, to Jidenna’s contemporary classic man. And while the focus at this year’s Met Gala is on menswear for the first time since 2003, it’s also on Janelle Monáe’s tailored suits, Missy Elliott’s Afrofuturism and Grace Jones’ avant-garde androgyny." (https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/met-gala-theme-black-fashion-dandyism-superfine-rcna204417) / "The contemporary Black dandy, Miller said, is not confined by stereotypes or labels. He is Chadwick Boseman sporting a holy Versace cape to the 2018 Met Gala. They are Kai-Isaiah Jamal, the first Black trans model to walk for Louis Vuitton, wearing an Abloh-designed zoot suit in 2021. She is Doechii winning Best Rap Album at this year’s Grammys in a superfine Thom Browne suit-gown. He is the cohort of style figures hosting this year’s Met Gala — Pharrell, A$AP Rocky, Lewis Hamilton, Colman Domingo, and honorary chair LeBron James — all of whom have played pivotal roles in reshaping what it means to be masculine and fashionable." (https://hypebeast.com/2025/5/the-met-costume-institute-superfine-tailoring-black-style-contemporary-designers-monica-miller-curator-interviewer-dandy)
- ALT1: ... that the style of Black dandyism flourished during and after the Harlem Renaissance as a means of self-expression in the African American community through fine European tailoring? Source: The roots of Black dandyism lie in the intricate weaving of Black culture with European-style fashion—beginning in the post-Emancipation period, but coming into full force during the Harlem Renaissance. In the 1920s, Harlem became the epicenter of Black intellectual and artistic thought. Figures like Langston Hughes, Josephine Baker, and Zora Neale Hurston were breaking barriers with their literary and artistic contributions. But equally important was the cultural revolution taking place in fashion. The Black dandy of the Harlem Renaissance was someone who used dress to assert themselves in a world that often denied them dignity. Just as dandyism had once represented defiance against the traditional aristocracy, it now became a way to reject the limitations placed on Black people in America. The sharp suit, the polished shoes, the bow tie—these were not just fashion choices; they were ways of asserting one’s right to exist on their own terms. In a racially segregated America, the Black dandy’s outfit became a form of resistance, an elegant middle finger to a society that sought to define them by race, not character. (https://www.vogue.com/article/what-is-black-dandyism)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James M. Goodhue
- Comment: Earwig shows a higher percentage of copyright violation because of a few reasons: 1) a Reddit post citing the lede in a blockquote and 2) a book title by Monica L. Miller that virtually every source names in full. If there are other pressing copyvio concerns, however, I would be more than happy to revise the page to address them.
Phibeatrice (talk) 20:57, 8 May 2025 (UTC).
- Do you need to add Rosiestep in, as the creator of the article too? Lajmmoore (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 5
[edit]Leander Wiegand
- ... that German American football player Leander Wiegand received a scholarship to play in college in the U.S., even though the school had never seen him play?
- Source: ELF ("Leander is the first athlete from Germany to receive a full scholarship to Division I without the college ever seeing him play before.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Riverine rabbit
- Comment:
To do QPQ within a day or two.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
- @BeanieFan11: Could we slightly reword hook to ALT1 "... that German athlete Leander Wiegand received a scholarship to play American football at an American college that had never seen him play?"
"German American football player" reads a little ambiguous; reads like "German-American". This is also more concise I think. QPQ done, article long enough, reliably sourced, hook reliably sourced, no copyvio, article new enough at time of nom, no subjective issues with article I can spot. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 01:12, 17 May 2025 (UTC)- @Grapesurgeon: That works. I think your suggestion is best. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:30, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
approved with my alternate hook above. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 03:23, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Grapesurgeon: That works. I think your suggestion is best. BeanieFan11 (talk) 02:30, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
@BeanieFan11, grapesurgeon (fantastic username), and AirshipJungleman29: I've pulled this hook partially because there's a fatal defect with the hook itself and partially because I'm not comfortable with the article's current sourcing. First, the hook is sourced to a the player's self-proclaimed mentor giving an interview to a league they've both played in. Interviews can be reliable, but I don't see how this one can be given that the interviewer isn't a professional journalist, the publication isn't independent, and the interviewee is essentially self-publishing claims about a living third party. Second – and this is more subjective – articles should be based on independent sources, but I'm seeing more citations to league publications than I am actual independent publications (and that's before we get into the fact that apparently, the fantastically-named Hamburger Morgenpost disappointingly uses AI in its editorial work). So, sending this back here for more work – hopefully there's a better source to back up the hook, or another hook that can be found? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:54, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- My mistake on not catching that. Acknowledge your points (and I'm glad you like my username) grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 19:20, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Will look into this tomorrow or Tuesday. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:58, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
George Attla
- ... that champion sprint musher George Attla spent years of his childhood hospitalized with tuberculosis?
Annwfwn (talk) 01:01, 9 May 2025 (UTC).
- Comment — Uninteresting as written when it's well known that his leg was fused as a result of the tuberculosis and he still went on win tons of competitions in spite of the disability. Also, using a paid obituary for the source when there's seemingly no end to actual reliable sources discussing his life? Similarly, using a non-free image scavenged off the web when there are numerous publications with expired copyrights containing photos of Attla? To the latter point, as we continue to claim to be a collaborative environment, all you had to do was ask. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 02:30, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- I added a different source, there are plenty. Perhaps you can find an image? This is, as you pointed out, a collaborative project. I did not find numerous publications where the copyright had expired and so left the image placed by a previous editor. Annwfwn (talk) 10:40, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
Elegies (film)
- ... that Ann Hui (pictured) described an interviewee's performance as "awful" and cut his scene from her documentary Elegies?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that Ann Hui (pictured) interviewed two poets who got into an argument in unused footage from Elegies? Source: [2]
- ALT2: ... that the shoot for Elegies in Taiwan was almost canceled despite Ann Hui (pictured) already being there, as it was during the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic? Source: [3]
- ALT3: ... that Ann Hui (pictured) allowed the editor to work independently on Elegies? Source: [4]
- ALT4: ... that director Ann Hui (pictured) worked for free on Elegies? Source: [5]
- ALT5: ... that Ann Hui (pictured) intended to make a documentary about poetry back in 1976 before began working on Elegies in 2020? Source: [6]
- ALT6: ... that the title of Elegies comes from a suite of poems that Ann Hui (pictured) read during the film's pre-production and found touching? Source: [7]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/W leju po bombie
—👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 10:28, 5 May 2025 (UTC).
References
- ^ 黃保慧 (13 March 2024). "男主角演戲份被剪光 名導許鞍華透露:他演得很差!". United Daily News (in Chinese). Retrieved 4 May 2025.
許鞍華在片中以戲劇形式重現黃燦然的多首經典詩作,其中一首詩卻因為由黃燦然親自演出,反而害得整首詩全被剪光。許鞍華直言:「他演得很差!連走路都不自然,後來只能忍痛把整首詩都剪掉了。他是勉強地演了,可是他真的不是演員。」
[Ann Hui visualizes several poems by Huang Canran in dramatic form within the film. However, one poem had to be completely cut because Huang performed it himself, which was detrimental to the overall piece. Ann Hui candidly remarked, "His performance is very awful! Even his walking was unnatural, so in the end, I had to painfully cut the entire poem. He performed reluctantly, but he really is not an actor."] - ^ 余婉蘭 (22 November 2023). "許鞍華、廖偉棠對談:香港經此世變,詩是高度痛感|金馬入圍紀錄片《詩》". Initium Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
其實我還訪問了兩個詩人,那個訪問挺精彩⋯⋯因為他們兩個吵起架了,是熒惑和洪慧。但如果我們放進這部分,就多了一隻「腳仔」(支線)。當作之後還有一集。
[Actually, I also interviewed two poets, and that interview was quite exciting... because they got into an argument, they are Jacky Yuen and Hong Wai. But if we include this part, it adds a "subplot". [I will] Consider it for a sequel.] - ^ 項貽斐 (22 March 2024). "【專訪3】不以地域界定香港詩人 黃燦然「經濟流亡」深圳、廖偉棠移民台灣". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
疫情期間拍攝,許鞍華無論去深圳、台灣都得隔離,還因疫情的緊張、和緩讓隔離天數有時變長、有時變短,尤其來台拍廖偉棠時,忽然疫情升溫,製片擔心危險,不想造成工作人員或廖偉棠家人的困擾,希望許鞍華在台隔離結束就回香港。但是她認為,人都來了,就拍一點,盡量小心。
[During the filming period of the pandemic, Ann Hui had to quarantine whether she went to Shenzhen or Taiwan. The duration of the quarantine varied because of the fluctuating intensity of the pandemic. Especially when she came to Taiwan to film Liu Wai-tong, the pandemic suddenly intensified. The producer was worried about the danger and did not want to cause any trouble for the staff or Liu Wai-tong's family, wanting Ann Hui would return to Hong Kong as soon as her quarantine in Taiwan ended. However, she believed that since everyone was already there, they should film a little, while being as careful as possible.] - ^ 余婉蘭 (22 November 2023). "許鞍華、廖偉棠對談:香港經此世變,詩是高度痛感|金馬入圍紀錄片《詩》". Initium Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
剪接時,我們跟剪接師說,我想怎樣,這件事怎樣,其實說得很抽象。我們拍的東西不是很多,他就關上房門,自己自彈自唱,搞了差不多四五個月。
[During the editing process, we told the editor what I wanted and how we envisioned things, but it was quite vague. We did not have a lot of footage, so he closed the door and worked on his own, "playing and singing" for nearly four to five months.] - ^ 余婉蘭 (22 November 2023). "許鞍華、廖偉棠對談:香港經此世變,詩是高度痛感|金馬入圍紀錄片《詩》". Initium Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
Alice、 Ken和我都是無償沒計薪的,如果一計就不夠錢。
[Alice, Ken, and I all worked without pay, because if we accounted for it, there would not be enough budget.] - ^ 蕭采薇 (20 March 2024). "「金馬紀錄保持人」許鞍華76歲不退休! 鄭少秋換周潤發內幕曝光". ETtoday (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
許鞍華表示,最早在1975年、1976年間在TVB拍《獅子山下》後,就非常想拍古詩紀錄片及張愛玲的小說《傾城之戀》。雖然當時沒拍成,但這個想以詩為主題的創作熱情卻一直放在心裡等待機會。
[Ann Hui stated that after filming Lion Rock at TVB in 1975 and 1976, she had a strong desire to create a documentary about classical poetry and a novel adaptation on Eileen Chang's novella Love in a Fallen City. Although she did not manage to make [the documentary] at that time, her passion for poetry-themed creations remained in her heart, waiting for an opportunity.] - ^ 項貽斐 (22 March 2024). "【專訪4】詩作影像節奏拿捏有「禪意」 心有所感「哀歌」成「詩」". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 February 2025.
至於紀錄片《詩》的英文片名為《Elegies》(哀歌、輓歌之意),是源於黃燦然90年代由七首詩組成的《哀歌》組詩。許鞍華說:「這應該是他最有名的作品、也是我第一次接觸到他的作品。那時我不認識他,是在一本詩選集裡看到其中一首,覺得很感動,所以籌備時就暫名《哀歌》。
[As for the documentary Elegies, its English title is "Elegies", which refers to Huang Canran's suite of seven poems from the 1990s also titled Elegies. Ann Hui said, "This should be his most famous work, and it was my first encounter with his writing. At that time, I did not know him; I saw one of the poems in an anthology and felt very moved, so during the pre-production, I use "Elegies" as the working title."]
Articles created/expanded on May 7
[edit]Star Trek: Day of Blood
- ... that Star Trek: Day of Blood is the first crossover event between ongoing comic books in the Star Trek franchise?
- Source: Lovett, Jaime (November 19, 2022). "Star Trek: Day of Blood Crossover Announced". Comic Book. Retrieved 24 April 2025.
- ALT1: ... that the comic book Star Trek: Day of Blood includes a tie-in starred by Shaxs from Star Trek: Lower Decks? Source: Lovett, Jamie (September 24, 2023). "Star Trek: Lower Decks' Shaxs Has His Best Day Ever In New Preview". Comicbook.com. Retrieved 7 May 2025.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Regina George (Mean Girls)
Cambalachero (talk) 14:31, 7 May 2025 (UTC).
- Comment - whoever reviews this, please see Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Moratorium_on_"first"_hooks?; while the project hasn't yet enacted any sort of restriction on "first" hooks, this is going to be under scrutiny so the sourcing and the evidence for the above claim will need to be strong (I haven't looked yet so I have no idea if it is or not). Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 21:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Cambalachero All sources that I can find verify the hook fact. The reading order section needs to be referenced. I am not approving ALT1 as not interesting. SL93 (talk) 22:38, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm looking at the article right now and nothing stands out as a hook that works for non-Trekkies. If no agreement on a new hook can be made, or no new hook can be proposed, we may have to fail this one unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:51, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Done. As for the hook, "first work of its kind" should be interesting enough. Cambalachero (talk) 19:02, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I thought so also. SL93 (talk) 21:17, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
Folding Ideas
- ... that Folding Ideas has covered Fifty Shades, flat Earth, and NFTs?
- Source:
- Williams, Wil (2021-06-01). "The essential video essays of YouTube history". Polygon. Retrieved 2025-05-07.
- Williams, Wil (2020-12-30). "The best video essays of 2020". Polygon. Retrieved 2025-04-29.
- Chow, Andrew R. (2022-02-03). "'The Problem With NFTs': A Crypto Expert Responds to a Viral Takedown". TIME. Retrieved 2025-05-06.
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Based5290 :3 (talk) 07:10, 7 May 2025 (UTC).
Based5290, article is new enough, long enough and QPQ is unnecessary. Violation is unlikely as Earwig found 14.5% plagiarism, but I believe this close paraphrasing should fixed, "provides the kind of empathetic and insightful commentary that should be exemplary to critics on YouTube and beyond", quoted from Indy Film Library. I also don't find the hook interesting, or is it just not clear enough? I guess I'll leave the hook to more experienced reviewers. dxneo (talk) 21:56, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- dxneo I'm not personally convinced that quote is problematic, but I reworded it anyways. I suppose that Fifty Shades and NFTs are probably too niche to use directly, so maybe ALT1: ...a pop culture YouTuber analyzed flat Earth, QAnon, and cryptocurrency? Source: [10][11][12] Based5290 :3 (talk) 22:10, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
- dxneo, thoughts on the nominator's comments. Sohom (talk) 04:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
My apologies. However, I still don't feel like the hook is "wow". Everyone cover world news nowadays, so how is this any different? It fails WP:DYKINT. A new hook, from a different angle is required. dxneo (talk) 06:00, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2...that a video about flat Earth and QAnon by Folding Ideas was noted for its landscape shots? Source: [13][14]
- ALT3...that one critic called a review by Folding Ideas "exemplary to critics on YouTube and beyond"? Source: [15] Based5290 :3 (talk) 07:17, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
ALT2, any reason why the f in "flat Earth" is in lowercase? And in the article, the a in "In Search of A Flat Earth" is supposed to be in lowercase per WP:MOS. Polygon does not directly say anything about landscapes and this hook does not appear in the article, making it fail WP:WIADYK.
Moving on to ALT3, a comment made by a non-notable individual, still not interesting enough. I guess other reviewers might say different, so I'm requesting a second opinion. dxneo (talk) 15:32, 16 May 2025 (UTC)- ALT2: Polygon article: "The video is shot beautifully, with loving and reverent shots of nature that not only contribute to the video’s content and concepts, but also capture a sense of still beauty." The claim does appear in the article in a slightly different form: "Williams and Jef Rouner of Datebook noted the video's shots of the Canadian landscape as beautiful." The f if "flat Earth" is lowercase because that's how the Flat Earth article treats it.
ALT3: As far as I can tell, comments by non-notable reviewers are entirely fair game for hooks unless there is a dispute about the reliability of the reviewer (or the comment itself is uninteresting). See Template:Did you know nominations/Fedora (short story), Template:Did you know nominations/Polo (novel), Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Life_Till_Bones. Based5290 :3 (talk) 22:39, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: Polygon article: "The video is shot beautifully, with loving and reverent shots of nature that not only contribute to the video’s content and concepts, but also capture a sense of still beauty." The claim does appear in the article in a slightly different form: "Williams and Jef Rouner of Datebook noted the video's shots of the Canadian landscape as beautiful." The f if "flat Earth" is lowercase because that's how the Flat Earth article treats it.
- dxneo, thoughts on the nominator's comments. Sohom (talk) 04:08, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
@Based5290: I agree that ALT3 does not meet WP:DYKINT. What else do you have?--Launchballer 11:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 8
[edit]Articles created/expanded on May 9
[edit]Pilot (Arrested Development)
- ... that the pilot to Arrested Development has been compared to Plato's Allegory of the cave?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the pilot to Arrested Development has been described as an "early adapter to the changing economic mood [towards America] in the 2000s"? Source: https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/arrested-development/arrested-development-turns-20-now-the-story-of-a-wealthy-family-who-lost-everything
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Crystal Drawers (talk) 02:41, 9 May 2025 (UTC).
GA status, length, hook, close paraphrasing check ok. No QPQ needed. I prefer ALT0. --Soman (talk) 20:21, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
@Crystal Drawers and Soman: per discussion at WT:DYK, I've pulled this one out of queue because of unresolved sourcing questions. I'll come back around in a bit to summarize where my thoughts are :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 18:55, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
@Crystal Drawers: Thanks for waiting, and sorry for a long message in advance! So, you mentioned this draft of a possible addition to the Manual of Style – I would say that even if it were part of the MoS, it still wouldn't supersede the basic principles of what goes into an article. Neither does the fact that some or even many other articles aren't written to the same standards – lots of articles were written at a time when standards were lower or in a topic area where enforcement of policy is less rigorous, but that doesn't mean that policy shouldn't be enforced rigorously.
As to what discourages using DVD extras: I would argue that a core principle on Wikipedia is that our coverage of a topic is shaped by independent, professional sources. They're the people we trust to separate what's important and true from what isn't, and overusing self-published material gets in the way of that ideal. The guideline I'll cite here is WP:SELFSOURCE, which says that people can be reliable sources of information about themselves as long as the source does not involve claims about third parties
; it also says that use of self-sourced material should be minimal; the great majority of any article must be drawn from independent sources
. I do see some self-published sources being used for claims about third parties, and I wouldn't say that the use of non-independent sources in the article is minimal.
I do think that correcting the first one would go a long way towards addressing the second, so I hope I'm not pushing too much of a burden on you! Please let me know if there's anything I can do to help :) also, I kinda wanna get around to watching this show now. it's been on my list forever...theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:42, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Irwin, William (November 8, 2011). Arrested Development and Philosophy: They've Made a Huge Mistake. Wiley. ISBN 9781118146262.
Agnes Gallus
- ... that Agnes Gallus fled Hungary during the 1956 revolution and moved to Canada, where she became a respected artist while raising children as a single mother? Source: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/facts-and-arguments/agnes-szentgyorgyi-gallus/article568112/ (the obituary covers the timeline of her leaving Hungary in 1956, going to Canada in 1957, separating from her husband in 1968, and becoming a successful artist)
BuySomeApples (talk) 03:39, 10 May 2025 (UTC).
Noting that there is a pending AfD nomination on this page. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 05:04, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 10
[edit]Singapore Rail Test Centre
- ... that the Singapore Rail Test Centre is the first exclusive train testing facility in Southeast Asia?
- ALT1: ... that the Singapore Rail Test Centre allows integrated systems testing for different trains and rail systems simultaneously, avoiding the need to conduct tests on operational lines on the MRT network? Source: https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltagov/en/who_we_are/statistics_and_publications/Connect/singaporerailtestcentre.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mee siam mai hum
ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 15:28, 10 May 2025 (UTC).
- Just passed GA, so the timing checks out. It's definitely long enough, well-sourced, hook and QPQ are done, and no copyvio issues popped up. ALT0 probably reads better for general readers, but ALT1 feels more interesting to me, it's a bit less dry and sparks more curiosity. We're good to go!
Mariamnei (talk) 09:26, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
Pulled. This will take essentially a complete rewrite to adequately address the sourcing problems, so calling this {{DYKno}}. See my analysis at FAC for details. RoySmith (talk) 20:46, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: For further clarification, if a DYK is pulled, can I still nominate another DYK in the future? I still wish to get a Wikipedia:Four Award in the future, and the SRTC is my best chance for it.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 08:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'll leave that for others to address; I'm not the gatekeeper of what's allowed or not allowed. But I will say that I'm more concerned about putting out a good product and not getting dragged to WP:ERRORS than I am about what awards you qualify for. RoySmith (talk) 10:33, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Concern over errors? Exactly what errors? starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:ERRORS refers more to stuff that's wrong on the main page.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 02:17, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Concern over errors? Exactly what errors? starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:49, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'll leave that for others to address; I'm not the gatekeeper of what's allowed or not allowed. But I will say that I'm more concerned about putting out a good product and not getting dragged to WP:ERRORS than I am about what awards you qualify for. RoySmith (talk) 10:33, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: For further clarification, if a DYK is pulled, can I still nominate another DYK in the future? I still wish to get a Wikipedia:Four Award in the future, and the SRTC is my best chance for it.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 08:30, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
Allow me then to suggest a few more alts that aren't as contentious.--ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 11:43, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the 16.9 kilometres (10.5 mi) tracks at the Singapore Rail Test Centre is compatible with various types of signalling systems and is powered by both direct-current third rail and alternating-current overhead catenary? Source: International Railway Journal
- ALT3: ... that the Singapore Rail Test Centre incorporates energy-efficient features such as smart lighting control, solar panels and a hybrid cooling system? Source: International Railway Journal
- Frankly, I see both hooks as problematic. ALT2 seems too technical or specialist, and ALT3 as currently written reads like an advertisement. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:42, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: What about a simplified ALT2? Like ALT4: ...that the tracks of the Singapore Rail Test Centre' are designed to work with different signalling systems and can run on both direct current and alternating current power? ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 01:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Seems too complex. Maybe split it into separate hooks? It has two main hook facts when individually either work as hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:36, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: What about a simplified ALT2? Like ALT4: ...that the tracks of the Singapore Rail Test Centre' are designed to work with different signalling systems and can run on both direct current and alternating current power? ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 01:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I see both hooks as problematic. ALT2 seems too technical or specialist, and ALT3 as currently written reads like an advertisement. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:42, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Alright then:
- ALT4a: ...that the tracks of the Singapore Rail Test Centre are designed to work with different signalling systems? Source: International Railway Journal
- ALT4b: ...that the tracks of the Singapore Rail Test Centre are designed to run on both direct current and alternating current power? Source: International Railway Journal
Is that better? ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 05:25, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
Yes, that works better. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:05, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
Mykola Chaikovsky
- ... that Ukrainian mathematician Mykola Chaikovsky wrote the first Ukrainian-language science fiction novel? Source: https://fantlab.org/blogarticle37223 and https://archivsf.narod.ru/1887/nikolay_chaykovskiy/index.htm
Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:24, 10 May 2025 (UTC).
- This is not a review, but how well-attested is the claim that the novel was the first Ukrainian-language sci-fi novel? That's quite a bold and exceptional claim, and per the guidelines such claims require exceptional sourcing to make sure that it's actually true. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:58, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I agree the current sourcing is so-so; the cited source (FantLab) is not listed as unreliable, but it also does not strike me as scholarly. Unfortunately, if better sources exist, they are in Ukranian/Russian, and searching in these languages is hard for me (I've asked AI to search for scholarly sources in ru/uk; if I find anything better I'll update this post). I've proposed a safer ALT1 below, backed up by a reliable English ref. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:27, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Ukrainian mathematician Mykola Chaikovsky wrote one of the first Ukrainian science fiction novels and published it in Poland? Source: https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/ukraine
- I would steer away from "first" and focus on other aspects of the book's early focus on solar power (I think that meets WP:DYKFICTION?). Also, the Wikipedia content is verbatim from SFE. Viriditas (talk) 20:02, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: This is why I said "one of the first". As far as I can tell from my research, this is correct - and the work is also called THE first work of SF in Ukrainian language. Anyway, "one of the first" should really be not a controversial claim. As for SFE - possible, since I write it (the SFE entry), just like I wrote our entry (I was working on both at the same time, in fact) and I retain the copyright to the original (SFE does not require copyright transfer; no document was signed to that effect). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:55, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- So you are writing and citing yourself? That’s a separate problem altogether. I will let others address it. Viriditas (talk) 02:04, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Viriditas: The source is reliable, and this has been passed by COIN, where I've asked about this in the past - and was told this conforms to WP:SELFCITE (it has also been discussed in some prior DYK noms (ex. here) and found to be fine). So there's no "problem". --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 11
[edit]John Lynch (linguist)
- ... that John Lynch authored an anonymous newsletter satirizing the university he was later made vice chancellor of?
- ALT1: ... that the book The Oceanic Languages, coauthored by John Lynch, is so well-known by linguists of the Oceanic languages that it is referred to simply as "the blue book"? Source: "His 2002 publication with Malcolm Ross and Terry Crowley, The Oceanic Languages, a compendium of descriptions of forty-three Oceanic languages with a great deal of additional material on the sociolinguistic background and the reconstructed ancestral language, Proto-Oceanic, was intended in a sense to replace Ray (1926). It has become a standard reference work, affectionately known to Oceanic linguists as “the blue book,” from the color of its cover." p. 493
- ALT2: ... that at one point, John Lynch was the only honors linguistics student at the University of Sydney? Source: "One year John was the only honours student in linguistics and attended classes in Capell's office, where the latter read from his lecture notes for the whole hour." p. 490
- ALT3: ... that after his wife died, John Lynch set up an award in her name to honor women who work in community service or disability advocacy? Source: "John was a long-time friend of the Australian High Commission and was instrumental in establishing the Australian High Commission’s International Women’s Day awards in honour of his late wife, Andy Lynch [...] John remained highly involved in selecting the awardees of the Andy Lynch Award right up until 2020. We will remember John as a champion of local women’s leadership in the disability and community services sector and a friend and mentor to many. "
- ALT4: ... that John Lynch was known as an impressive writer, leading one collaborator later to write: "The first draft was the final draft, it was always that good"? Source: "His work ethic and talent for writing were legendary: Jan Tent, who worked with him on course books on phonology and morphology in the 1990s, writes: 'I was amazed at how quickly John wrote. The first draft was the final draft, it was always that good. It was a great honor and privilege to have had the chance to work with John in developing and writing those two courses.'", p. 493
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Keijō nippō
ThaesOfereode (talk) 00:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is generally in good shape and expanded more than 5x during the window. All hooks are sourced; I think ALT2 is the strongest of them. Two images have free licences which check out; the main portrait is used under fair use; we should really give some detail of the efforts taken to find a free-use image rather than simply asserting that none probably exist, but I'm not going to be too insistent on that here. QPQ is done. There are quite a few passages which seem to closely paraphrase this obituary; this needs to be addressed before the article can hit the main page. For the benefit of (perhaps far) future readers, I would consider explaining why his funeral was held virtually -- hopefully, we will soon get to the point where readers need reminding of the exact dates of the pandemic. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:54, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Thanks for the review! Given that I only cited Ross & Blust once (which re-reading it, I should have used more), would you mind pointing out some of the CLOP issues? I tried really hard to avoid them with Geraghty & Pawley (2021) in particular, so I must've accidentally fallen into Ross & Blust in error. Earwig basically just spit out a concern because of the biblio and because I like to spell out the names (e.g., of universities) in full. As for the funeral, I almost put in that it was because of COVID... but I couldn't confirm that; his four brothers lived in Australia and I couldn't confirm that it wasn't because of some other reason (e.g., they couldn't afford to fly out) without dipping into a WP:OR issue. ThaesOfereode (talk) 23:47, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't help that the two sources are very similar indeed (to the point where I'd certainly raise concerns if they were Wikipedia articles!), so I can see how you've ended up very close to one without using it heavily. Actually, it's clearer to use Geraghty and Pawley directly to show the issues. A few examples -- source text first, article text follows:
- (Geraghty and Pawley): In 1958 the Lynches moved to Melbourne, where John attended the Jesuits’ Xavier College. ... In his high school years he studied Latin, French, Greek and German — in fact the school didn't offer German so he taught himself and was tutored by the Austrian wife of one of his teachers, and he passed the German exam too in his final year: versus The Lynches lived in Wahroonga, a suburb north of Sydney, until 1958 when they moved to Melbourne. There, John attended Xavier College, a boarding school run by the Society of Jesus, during which he studied Latin, French, Ancient Greek, and German. Because the school did not offer German as a subject, he taught himself before being tutored by a member of the staff's Austrian wife. The structure is identical, with some phrases lifted verbatim, and others lightly rearranged (e.g. "a member of the staff's Austrian wife" for "the Austrian wife of one of his teachers".
- (idem) In 1964 John obtained a Commonwealth Scholarship and began an honours degree in Arts at The University of Sydney, graduating with first class honours in 1968. ... His sole linguistics teacher during his four years at The University of Sydney was Rev. Dr. Arthur Capell versus Lynch began his undergraduate studies in 1964 after receiving a Commonwealth Scholarship. He attended the University of Sydney, receiving a degree in anthropology and a linguistics distinction with first-class honours in 1968. At one point the only student in the honours linguistics program, Lynch's only linguistics professor was Arthur Capell
- (idem) For the next few years he divided his time between teaching at UPNG, taking courses at the UH, fieldwork on Tanna, writing his doctoral thesis, and taking over the editorship of Kivung (later renamed Language and Linguistics in Melanesia) ... Lynch was editor of volumes 7 to 11 from 1974 to 1978, then review editor from 1982 to 1986, and an associate editor or editorial board member from 1986 onward versus During this period, Lynch both taught at the University of Papua New Guinea and took classes back in Hawaii while writing his dissertation. He also assumed the chief editing role at the academic journal Kivung (now Language and Linguistics in Melanesia) ... Lynch was chief editor between 1974 and 1978, though later served as a reviewing editor from 1982 to 1986. From 1986 until his death, he served as either an associate editor or as a member of the journal's editorial board
- (idem) After twenty-one years, John’s stint at the UPNG came to an end. ... he and his wife Andonia Piau-Lynch (known to all as Andy) and their two young sons moved to Vanuatu, where Andonia forged a career first as an educational psychologist (the only degree-holding psychologist in Vanuatu) and later as an advocate for the rights of people with disabilities and for women’s rights. After twenty-one years at the University of Papua New Guinea, Lynch left to begin work at the University of the South Pacific's Emalus campus; he, his wife, and two young sons moved to Port Vila, Vanuatu, towards the end of 1991. While there, his wife worked as an educational psychologist on the island and was the nation's only psychologist with a degree. She was later an advocate for women's rights in Vanuatu, as well as for those with disabilities
- You've clearly made efforts to rephrase, but fundamentally these are minor variations keeping the same selection and arrangement of facts, which is a copyvio concern. UndercoverClassicist T·C 05:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Admittedly it was a bit difficult, but I think I've shuffled things around and rephrased them enough to avoid copyvios. Please let me know if there are any other areas of concern; I didn't realize how much of the copyvio stuff I was flatly ignorant on, so apologies. ThaesOfereode (talk) 01:43, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've put a few copyedits in, but I think the article now needs a good look for comprehensibility and grammar -- I'd suggest reading each paragraph, going away for a minute, then trying to re-write the same ideas without looking at it. We're in an awkward place at the moment where the writing is trying to contort itself to get away from the original sources, leading to awkward phrases which don't always say what we mean (I've removed "languages such as...", for example, as that was very much not supported by the source), or are otherwise rather strained: see Although German was not available as a class outright, he had success teaching himself the language. Eventually, he was tutored by a local Austrian native who was married to one of the schoolteachers and passed the final exam. UndercoverClassicist T·C 08:33, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Admittedly it was a bit difficult, but I think I've shuffled things around and rephrased them enough to avoid copyvios. Please let me know if there are any other areas of concern; I didn't realize how much of the copyvio stuff I was flatly ignorant on, so apologies. ThaesOfereode (talk) 01:43, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- It doesn't help that the two sources are very similar indeed (to the point where I'd certainly raise concerns if they were Wikipedia articles!), so I can see how you've ended up very close to one without using it heavily. Actually, it's clearer to use Geraghty and Pawley directly to show the issues. A few examples -- source text first, article text follows:
@ThaesOfereode and UndercoverClassicist: What is the status of this?--Launchballer 11:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- As above, I think -- unless I've missed some changes? UndercoverClassicist T·C 11:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well, there have been about a dozen edits to the article since your 17 May comment. I'd check them.--Launchballer 11:53, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I've checked them, but they seem to be small tweaks rather than a thorough rework: ThaesOfereode, is this the sum of what you were planning to do? UndercoverClassicist T·C 11:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Began working on rereading this right before Launchballer's ping actually; I wanted to step away from this and get some other back-burner projects going so I could come back to this with fresh eyes. Hopefully will be able to wring this out in the next day or two, time and skill permitting. ThaesOfereode (talk) 12:06, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 12
[edit]Dalton Old Pump House
- ... that a 19th-century water pumping station is now a wedding venue?
- Source: "It ceased operating as a pumping station in the Second World War[...] But , after a two year renovation project, it will now be opening its doors for brides and grooms wanting to marry among its striking features." [16]
- Source: "Enter this amazing room via our grand staircase, you are greeted with over 50 chandeliers which will simply take your breath away." [17]
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Barabbas1312 (talk) 18:08, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
- @Barabbas1312:
This is an interesting fact about a historic building with a nice picture. Approved. Moondragon21 (talk) 17:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
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- @Moondragon21: Thank-you. Comparing to other DYKs, I wonder if the image needs a simpler (more hooky) caption - eg just 'Dalton Old Pump House: the Boiler Room'? (If so I'm not sure how/whether to alter it at this stage).
- @Barabbas1312: - I would have thought it was okay but maybe "that over fifty chandeliers hang in the boiler room at Dalton Old Pump House? is more snappy. Moondragon21 (talk) 13:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21: Thanks again - agreed - I've made that change in the template (which I hope is the right thing to do) and will now leave it well alone!
- @Barabbas1312: - I would have thought it was okay but maybe "that over fifty chandeliers hang in the boiler room at Dalton Old Pump House? is more snappy. Moondragon21 (talk) 13:33, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
Per WT:DYK discussion, I have reverted the promotion and pulled from the DYK queue. Concerns about WP:PROMO and independent sourcing need to be resolved before this is approved. @Barabbas1312: Please address those concerns and ping Moondragon21 when this is ready for a re-review. Z1720 (talk) 18:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- If this is to be reapproved, it will have to run with a new hook. Cielquiparle proposed the following at WT:DYK:
- ... that a 19th-century water pumping station is now a wedding venue?
- I have struck the original hook per the concerns Z1720 mentioned. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:54, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5:I am happy to go with that. Barabbas1312 (talk) 20:34, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21: Hook redrafted as per request above.
Nucleariid

- ... that nucleariid amoebae are the closest relatives of fungi?
- Source: Tedersoo, Leho; Sánchez-Ramírez, Santiago; Kõljalg, Urmas; Bahram, Mohammad; Döring, Markus; Schigel, Dmitry; May, Tom; Ryberg, Martin; Abarenkov, Kessy (2018). "High-level classification of the Fungi and a tool for evolutionary ecological analyses". Fungal Diversity. 90 (1): 135–159. doi:10.1007/s13225-018-0401-0. ISSN 1560-2745.
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Overall: Some alternative hooks would be good. It would be better if it said that nucleariid amoebae are among the closest relatives of fungi. Aneirinn (talk) 23:23, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Aneirinn: Fair enough. I changed the reference, let me know if that works for you. — Snoteleks (talk) 00:15, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- After reading this new one, I believe this hook might be controversial as it seems some might consider the closest relative of fungi to be Rozellomyceta or Rozellomycota. Aneirinn (talk) 00:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Well, mycologists agree that Rozellomycota are fungi, same with Aphelidiomycota (see for example this ref, which is the outline of fungal classification). While it is true that these "lower fungi" were often traditionally studied by protistologists as protists, modern protistologists agree that they belong to the Fungi (see doi:10.1111/jeu.12691 for the scientific consensus of protistologists). If you still don't change your mind, I'll re-write it. — Snoteleks (talk) 01:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, the scientific consensus does seem to be that they are fungi. I still am unsure if nucleariid amoebae are the closest relatives of fungi. I have looked for it but have not been able to see where it says that in the source. Aneirinn (talk) 17:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Aneirinn: The source has a cladogram depicting the relationship, and it shows nucleariids ("kingdom Nucleariae") as the sister group of the kingdom Fungi. This relationship is also explained in the taxonomic section, where the two kingdoms are grouped within superkingdom Holomycota. There are no other kingdoms included there. — Snoteleks (talk) 21:33, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- I agree, the scientific consensus does seem to be that they are fungi. I still am unsure if nucleariid amoebae are the closest relatives of fungi. I have looked for it but have not been able to see where it says that in the source. Aneirinn (talk) 17:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Well, mycologists agree that Rozellomycota are fungi, same with Aphelidiomycota (see for example this ref, which is the outline of fungal classification). While it is true that these "lower fungi" were often traditionally studied by protistologists as protists, modern protistologists agree that they belong to the Fungi (see doi:10.1111/jeu.12691 for the scientific consensus of protistologists). If you still don't change your mind, I'll re-write it. — Snoteleks (talk) 01:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- After reading this new one, I believe this hook might be controversial as it seems some might consider the closest relative of fungi to be Rozellomyceta or Rozellomycota. Aneirinn (talk) 00:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think the current hook will survive scrutiny, either at WT:DYK or at WP:ERRORS. Newly-added guidelines at DYKG state that exceptional claims, to which "closest relatives to fungi" is an example of, require exceptional sourcing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:55, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Huda al-Daghfaq
- ... that poet Huda al-Daghfaq is also a prose poet? Source: https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Saudi_Arabia_and_the_Gulf_Arab_States_To/5xbOEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Huda+al-Daghfaq&pg=PA266&printsec=frontcover
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marva Nabili
- Comment: Other hook suggestions welcome
Lajmmoore (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
- @Lajmmoore: I don't see how the current hook meets WP:DYKINT: of course a person who specializes in a form of poetry is a poet, even if an unusual one. Do you have any other hook angles? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:14, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks Narutolovehinata5 I proposed this one (which I agree is a bit dull) as I got nervous about proposing other hooks based on her feminism. That said she is a prominent figure, so perhaps I am being too overly cautious? What about:
- ALT1 that Saudi poet Huda al-Daghfaq's memoir I Tear the Burqa to See was described as an "existential battle"? In the description of this article https://doi.org/10.21608%2Fjssa.2020.119124 Lajmmoore (talk) 06:27, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'd personally just write it as: ALT1a ... that Saudi poet Huda al-Daghfaq's memoir was described as an "existential battle"? I don't think the memoir has to be mentioned by name. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:13, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I just put an alt for it in Lajmmoore (talk) 18:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'd personally just write it as: ALT1a ... that Saudi poet Huda al-Daghfaq's memoir was described as an "existential battle"? I don't think the memoir has to be mentioned by name. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:13, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 18:46, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Prose size 2310 B; created two days before nom. Prefer ALT1a per Narutolovehinata5. After some straightforward copyedits (including one I forgot to save before saving the checklist), article is mostly good. @Lajmmoore: fix these issues and I'll approve. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:24, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Death Race 2
- ... that the 2008 action film Death Race is followed by a prequel entitled Death Race 2?
- ALT1: ... that a judge in DVD Verdict found Death Race 2 guilty of "running on empty"? Source: "The Charge: Running on empty; The Verdict: Guilty. Off to the scrap-yard." - Reviewed by Judge David Johnson (DVD Verdict)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chromebook challenge
- Comment: I withdrew the first nomination for not meeting the five-fold criterion at the time
Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 13:51, 12 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 13
[edit]Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra
- ... that the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra, founded in 1925, gave in 2022 a solidarity concert with Ukraine after the Russian invasion, of music by Ukrainian and Georgian composers? Source: [18]
Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC).
- I would personally trim the hook to just this:
- ALT0a ... that in 2022, the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra performed a solidarity concert with Ukraine featuring music by Ukrainian and Georgian composers?
- I think there is some potential in the original hook fact, it's just worded awkwardly and I don't think the founding date is important to the main hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- I think a centenary is worth mentioning. I also would like to point at how immediately after the invasion that was - perhaps you have an idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- The primary hook fact is that they performed a solidarity concert following the invasion of Ukraine. Them being founded in 1925 is irrelevant to that. Again, WP:DYKTRIM applies:
...don't be afraid to trim hooks of extraneous information and clauses... In general, the shorter and punchier the hook, the more impact it has.
If your desire is for the hook to run on the orchestra's centennial year, just it being approved and running is all that's needed. No need to mention the year since it's irrelevant to the hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)- ALT0b ... that following Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra performed a solidarity concert featuring music by Ukrainian and Georgian composers?
- I think that our readers, who are expected not to know this orchestra even existed, get valuable extra information by telling them (in a short phrase) about the groups's long history, - a background giving the fact more depth. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0c: ... that the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra, founded in 1925, gave a solidarity concert with Ukraine soon after the Russian invasion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I'm happy with ALT0c on an interestingness level. Do you plan on giving this a full review?--Launchballer 11:46, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I was not planning on giving this a full review. However, I don't think we should go with ALT0c as written because I still feel that the year is trimmable. I am open to a variant of ALT0c that omits the year, as I really don't think that the foundation year is an essential part of the main hook fact. So basically something like: ALT0d: ... that the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra gave a solidarity concert with Ukraine soon after the Russian invasion? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
I think the centenary adds interest, but don't feel strongly enough either way. I'll let a reviewer adjudicate.--Launchballer 12:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- One issue is that it might be easy to miss the centenary point, so even if that was the reason for including the year, it might take a while for the reader to register if (if they register it at all). It's also probably less relevant to the hook fact because the concert was in 2022 and not in 2025, so the year really isn't really relevant at all. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:19, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Even if you "miss" the centenary point, you can see that there is a long history (to be explored when you click), vs. just some short-time action. We have different readers, and some may be interested in history and perspective. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- One issue is that it might be easy to miss the centenary point, so even if that was the reason for including the year, it might take a while for the reader to register if (if they register it at all). It's also probably less relevant to the hook fact because the concert was in 2022 and not in 2025, so the year really isn't really relevant at all. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:19, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I was not planning on giving this a full review. However, I don't think we should go with ALT0c as written because I still feel that the year is trimmable. I am open to a variant of ALT0c that omits the year, as I really don't think that the foundation year is an essential part of the main hook fact. So basically something like: ALT0d: ... that the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra gave a solidarity concert with Ukraine soon after the Russian invasion? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I'm happy with ALT0c on an interestingness level. Do you plan on giving this a full review?--Launchballer 11:46, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0b ... that following Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra performed a solidarity concert featuring music by Ukrainian and Georgian composers?
- The primary hook fact is that they performed a solidarity concert following the invasion of Ukraine. Them being founded in 1925 is irrelevant to that. Again, WP:DYKTRIM applies:
- I think a centenary is worth mentioning. I also would like to point at how immediately after the invasion that was - perhaps you have an idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
List of bigfin squid specimens and sightings
- ... that Nautile recorded two seperate sightings of bigfin squid on the same expedition?
- ALT1: ... that the first bigfin squid specimen collected was damaged by trawling during its discovery? Source: https://iiif.lib.harvard.edu/manifests/view/drs:10794884$3771i
-Samoht27 (talk) 17:02, 14 May 2025 (UTC).
- Reviewed:
Reviewing... I will be reviewing this nomination. I am a new reviewer, so I will need a second opinion. NeoGaze (talk) 13:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: The article was moved to mainspace on 13 May 2025, and was nominated for DYK the next day. Length is adequate and the hooks are both interesting and properly backed by sources. No image is used and a QPQ is not required for this nomination. The main issue is sourcing beyond the mentioned hooks; A whole section has no sources (Background), but it could use some of the main article it links to. In the list itself, there are several sightings with no backing sources, a case of a failed verification and broken youtube link, and a few uses of twitter/X being used as a reference, which should be replaced for better alternatives if possible. I added several templates and tags to clearly point these issues. Once everything is fixed and double-checked, I will request a second opinion from another editor. NeoGaze (talk) 19:09, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your review! I added some references to the background section, and am currently working on cleaning up the list portion of the article. I apologize, as I admit that I should've gone further with verifying the references before reviewing this page and nominating it for DYK. Thank you again for volunteering at DYK, I will attempt to address the issues with the article at this time. -Samoht27 (talk) 20:05, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Samoht27: Don't worry! These are just minor issues. When you finish, ping me so I can take a look NeoGaze (talk) 20:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Samoht27: Hello, are you still working on the article? NeoGaze (talk) 08:24, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Index, Washington
- ... that the small town of Index, Washington, has a Wicca church and Buddhist monastery? Source: Everett Herald, Dharma Realm Buddhist Association
- ALT1: ... that the "town walls" of Index, Washington, have 402 climbing routes? Source: Men's Journal
- Reviewed: Laki Tasi
SounderBruce 18:57, 13 May 2025 (UTC).
- @SounderBruce: The nomination will be closed within 24 hours if no QPQ is provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Is this 24-hour rule outlined anywhere? I have not seen it being enforced on other nominations this strictly. Frankly it is far too short of a deadline and seems to encourage shoddy and quick reviews rather than proper vetting. SounderBruce 05:49, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's an application of WP:QPQ (emphasis mine):
Your QPQ review should be made before or at the time of your nomination. A nomination which doesn't include a QPQ (and is not from an exempt nominator) may be closed as "incomplete" without warning.
You did not provide a QPQ at the time of the nomination, which makes it liable to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:07, 15 May 2025 (UTC)- The rules need to be revised to reflect the common practice of not having a QPQ on hand at the time of nomination. With the difficulty in finding suitable nominations to review without committing to a potentially time-wasting set of interactions, I do not think it is wise to punish active contributors who would otherwise not make the 7-day nomination window and drop out of the process. SounderBruce 07:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- It is a practice that DYK is actively discouraging now, especially with there being large backlogs and a need to encourage not just helping out backlogs but also weeding out unsuitable nominations. It may have been acceptable in the past to have a delay in providing a QPQ, but DYK has moved away from it now. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:15, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- The rules need to be revised to reflect the common practice of not having a QPQ on hand at the time of nomination. With the difficulty in finding suitable nominations to review without committing to a potentially time-wasting set of interactions, I do not think it is wise to punish active contributors who would otherwise not make the 7-day nomination window and drop out of the process. SounderBruce 07:13, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- It's an application of WP:QPQ (emphasis mine):
Full review needed now that QPQ has been provided. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:20, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Reviewing... this is a long article, so I might not post a full review until tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 22:17, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Thank you nominating this GA for DYK. Overall, the nomination has only minor concerns. The article achieved GA status on May 13, and was nominated for DYK the same day. Length is adequate, I found no plagiarism concerns, and the article is neutral in tone. I found a few sourcing concerns. Something is neeeded which specifically supports "smallest incorporated municipality in the county". Ideally this citation goes in the "Demographics" section instead of the introduction. There is one quote in the "Early 20th century" section that needs a citation as per WP:DYKCRIT. Both proposed hooks are interesting, and mentioned in the article. ALT0 needs a citation directly after the sentence which mentions the town has a Wicca church. ALT1 is properly cited and verfied. All images in the article are freely licensed on the Commons and could be used for a hoook. The nominated image does not depict the church, monastery, or rock walls, so it would not be clear or enahance the hook. I suggest changing the nominated image. The QPQ requirement is complete. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 14:21, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Flibirigit: I am a little confused by your edit summary here, where you state,
Citation [95] does not explicitly suppor this. "Index is the smallest municipality in Snohomish County and Western Washington" does not equal "the smallest incorporated municipality in the county". The key word "incorporated" is missing.
The article does verify that Index is incorporated (see cite note 7 [19]), and as you state, the article also verifies that Index "is the smallest municipality in Snohomish County". Mz7 (talk) 23:30, 4 June 2025 (UTC) - I strongly disagree with the addition of {{citation needed}} tags based on the DYK criteria, which is described as recommendations based on subjective taste, as opposed to the more firm and better-developed GA criteria and Manual of Style. The nickname of a train, as described in the History section, is already cited in the next sentence, which is sufficient under the GACR and MOS. I will also dispute that the lead's use of "smallest incorporated municipality in the county" is uncited, as the Demographics section clearly has a newspaper source that lists all of the municipalities in Snohomish County by population with Index as the lowest entry. SounderBruce 01:34, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 14
[edit]Articles created/expanded on May 15
[edit]Rephaim text
- ... that the Rephaim text, a 14th-century BCE Ugaritic poem, tells of divine warrior beings who ride for three days to a threshing floor - only to spend the next seven days eating there?
- Source: L'Heureux, Conrad (1974). "The Ugaritic and Biblical Rephaim". The Harvard Theological Review. 67 (3): 265. [20], Coogan, Michael David; Smith, Mark S. eds. (2012). Stories from ancient Canaan (2nd ed.). Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox Press. pp. 60-63.
- Reviewed:
Moonshane1933 (talk) 21:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC).
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- "beings who ride for three days to a threshing floor - only to spend the next seven days eating there." is verified. "14th-century BCE" is unverified. "divine warrior beings" is unverified. rp'm can be deities, the dead, the king's men.
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
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Overall: Article is good to go. Just need to provide refs for hook. Redtigerxyz Talk 13:44, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Moonshane1933: Please address the above; I will fail this if this is not remedied in a week.--Launchballer 12:03, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 16
[edit]Aprank monastery
- ... that the khachkars at Aprank monastery are the largest in Anatolia?
- Source: Başoğlu, Hanriet Topuzyan (21 May 2019). "Yukarı Fırat Ermeni köyleri ağlamaya devam ediyor (2)". Agos (in Turkish). https://www.agos.com.tr/tr/yazi/22463/yukari-firat-ermeni-koyleri-aglamaya-devam-ediyor-2 "Bunların Anadolu’daki en büyük Haçkarlar’ı olduğu söylenmekte." (="These are said to be the largest Khachkars in Anatolia.")
- ALT1: ... that the khachkars at Aprank monastery are the tallest in the world? Source:
"Աշխարհի ամենամեծ երկու խաչքարերու կրկնօրինակները պիտի տեղադրուին Մայր Աթոռին մէջ [Replicas of the world's two largest khachkars to be installed in the Mother See]". Horizon Weekly (in Armenian). March 23, 2015. https://horizonweekly.ca/en/64304-2/ "Ս. Դաւիթ մատուռը, որոնց մօտակայքը կը գտնուին աշխարհի ամենաբարձր` աւելի քան 6 մեթր բարձրութիւն ունեցող հրաշալի երկու խաչքարեր" (="two of the world's tallest magnificent khachkars (cross-stones)") - Reviewed: Twelve Devas, Juan Astorquia
--Երևանցի talk 13:33, 17 May 2025 (UTC).
- @Yerevantsi: two QPQs are required at time of nomination. Please provide the QPQs ASAP or this nomination will be declined. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 15:30, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro: two QPQs done.--Երևանցի talk 20:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
Image is freely licensed and works at thumbnail size. QPQs good, copyvio is mostly good except for an inscribed stone panel decorated with crosses and bearing two inscriptions, one with the date 1854 and Their height and prominent position as direct quotes that should by rephrased. Article recently created. My main issues here are with the hooks: ALT0 says "the largest" while the source says These are said to be the largest, and ALT1 claims "are the tallest" where the source says two of the world's tallest. The hooks, per WP:DYKDEFINITE, need exceptional sourcing to make such claims as "largest" or "tallest", and the sources included do not back it up. The hooks could be rephrased to match the sourcing, perhaps:
- ALT0b: ... that the khachkars at Aprank monastery may be the largest in Anatolia?
- ALT1b: ... that the khachkars at Aprank monastery are among the tallest in the world?
- Let me know if this is acceptable to you. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 20:04, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- I'm rephrased the two problematic passages to avoid copyvio.
- Agree with the first hook (and have accordingly rephrased the quote within the article). As for ALT1, Horizon Weekly's text actually translates to "the world's tallest — two magnificent khachkars" not "two of the world's tallest". The original translation is a bit off. It explicitly calls them "the tallest in the world" (աշխարհի ամենաբարձր).
- If that's still questionable, we can go with this:
- ALT2: ... that the monumental khachkars at Aprank monastery can be seen from 8 km away?
- It comes from the website VirtualANI [21] (run by the independent researcher Steven Sim [22][23]), which is widely cited by scholars [24] --Երևանցի talk 11:12, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Darth Stabro: two QPQs done.--Երևանցի talk 20:13, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
@Yerevantsi and Darth Stabro: What else needs doing here?--Launchballer 12:05, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer, Darth Stabro or someone else needs to finish the review. --Երևանցի talk 14:51, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'll take over then. ALTs 0 through 1 all rely on knowing what a khachkar is, so I won't touch those, and ALT2 has the claim in wikivoice and the article attributes, so won't fly either.--Launchballer 14:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Then we can replace "khachkar" with "cross stone"? --Երևանցի talk 16:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, although I notice that the article says "often cited as" and the hooks put the claim in wikivoice.--Launchballer 16:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- We can go with either of these:
- ALT3 "... that the cross stones at Aprank monastery are considered the tallest?"
- Horizon Weekly being the source (see above)
- ALT4 "... that the cross stones at Aprank monastery are "extremely large"?"
- Sim's VirtualAni being the source [25]--Երևանցի talk 18:27, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- How about ALT5: ... that a 1974 team assessing Aprank monastery was interrupted repeatedly by warnings from locals?, from the second paragraph of Current state (not sure how 1974 is current, but anyway...) I'll need a quote from the source and a new reviewer.--Launchballer 18:46, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- The khachkars are its most prominent feature. It would be a pity not to go with those. --Երևանցի talk 11:14, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- How about ALT5: ... that a 1974 team assessing Aprank monastery was interrupted repeatedly by warnings from locals?, from the second paragraph of Current state (not sure how 1974 is current, but anyway...) I'll need a quote from the source and a new reviewer.--Launchballer 18:46, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sim's VirtualAni being the source [25]--Երևանցի talk 18:27, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sure, although I notice that the article says "often cited as" and the hooks put the claim in wikivoice.--Launchballer 16:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Then we can replace "khachkar" with "cross stone"? --Երևանցի talk 16:08, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'll take over then. ALTs 0 through 1 all rely on knowing what a khachkar is, so I won't touch those, and ALT2 has the claim in wikivoice and the article attributes, so won't fly either.--Launchballer 14:59, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer, Darth Stabro or someone else needs to finish the review. --Երևանցի talk 14:51, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Snowpack types
- ... that less snow (pictured) is associated with more avalanche fatalities?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pavel Kushnir
- Comment: Additional QPQ: Template:Did you know nominations/1917 Franco-Russian agreement
(t · c) buidhe 02:10, 17 May 2025 (UTC).
- @Buidhe: Not a review, but the article only has three sources, all physical books, and they're all from the same publisher. Do you have any other sources to prove notability for this subject? As is, it looks like a prime target to be merged into Snowpack. Departure– (talk) 02:14, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Departure– There are actually four sources cited, and I would disagree with any merger, because this would be UNDUE in the snowpack article because the types are mostly distinguished for the purpose of avalanche forecasting in North America. (t · c) buidhe 02:19, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: They're all published by Mountaineers Books, which is my point. Snowpack types, while well cited, is longer than Snowpack, and could very easily be merged there unless either one has enough specifically on them to prevent such (speaking from someone from Wikiproject Weather, where a lot of articles get merged like this). Just a heads-up that you may have an uphill battle before this ends up on the main page; I have nothing against this being promoted if there truly is a reason to keep the pages separate. Departure– (talk) 02:23, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- The fact that it's more detailed than the general article is actually a strong indication that the material would be UNDUE if merged. You didn't bother to look for other sources which certainly exist, but simply assumed it's not notable. If you don't have anything against the promotion of the article why are you posting here? (t · c) buidhe 02:26, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
An actual review needed.--Launchballer 12:17, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 17
[edit]Cady Noland
- ... that the artist Cady Noland was sued by two different collectors of her work after she "disavowed" artworks that she no longer considered genuine because they were damaged or altered?
- Source: Julia Halperin (Oct 4, 2024), “Just How Much Control Can an Artist Have Over Their Work?”, T Mag (New York Times Style Magazine): “The Swiss art dealer Marc Jancou sued Noland and Sotheby’s after the artist disavowed a work that he wanted to sell at auction. […] Noland visited Sotheby’s to view it, along with two other works destined for the block that season, and found its corners so damaged that she considered the work totaled. Sotheby’s called off the sale. [...] But it was hardly the last time that Noland would defend her art’s honor. There was a series of lawsuits over ‘Log Cabin Facade’ (1990), a life-size wooden sculpture that the artist disavowed after its previous owner allowed it to be installed outdoors for over 10 years and then replaced the rotted wood with new logs. ‘This is not an artwork,’ she said in a handwritten fax addressed to its new owner, the Ohio-based collector Scott Mueller”
- ALT 1 (added after discussion below): ... that the artist Cady Noland has "disavowed" several artworks that she no longer considered genuine because they were damaged or altered?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: First ever DYK nom, please advise if I mis-formatted anything. Thanks!
19h00s (talk) 20:37, 17 May 2025 (UTC).
- @19h00s: Hello and welcome to DYK. I don't plan on reviewing this any time soon as I have a policy of reviewing oldest first, but I can tell you the hook won't fly as it is unduly negative. Also, and these are not DYK issues, the image fails WP:IMAGERELEVANCE as you can't see her properly and the sections badly want breaking up.--Launchballer 20:22, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, makes sense on the negativity front. I'd disagree on the image front, as detailed in the article and discussions on the talk page (long story short: she doesn't allow images of herself to be created or circulate, this image where she hides her identity has been widely discussed and is discussed in the article). Don't necessarily disagree on the breaking up of the sections, but a biography article necessarily requires a more cogent narrative structure that is extremely difficult to achieve when you spread everything out into sections that break up the chronological flow. Happy to retract this nomination or you can just fail it. 19h00s (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- A nomination doesn't fail just because one hook doesn't work. You could probably get away with ALT0a: ... that Cady Noland "disavowed" some of her artworks?, though I'll let a reviewer adjudicate on that.--Launchballer 20:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Learn something new about Wiki processes every day lol, just assumed this was DOA if the hook was out of bounds as written. Just added an alt version. Thanks for the tips. 19h00s (talk) 22:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- A nomination doesn't fail just because one hook doesn't work. You could probably get away with ALT0a: ... that Cady Noland "disavowed" some of her artworks?, though I'll let a reviewer adjudicate on that.--Launchballer 20:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, makes sense on the negativity front. I'd disagree on the image front, as detailed in the article and discussions on the talk page (long story short: she doesn't allow images of herself to be created or circulate, this image where she hides her identity has been widely discussed and is discussed in the article). Don't necessarily disagree on the breaking up of the sections, but a biography article necessarily requires a more cogent narrative structure that is extremely difficult to achieve when you spread everything out into sections that break up the chronological flow. Happy to retract this nomination or you can just fail it. 19h00s (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 19
[edit]Lorenzo Pace
- ... that Lorenzo Pace performed a candlelit flute concerto prior to his dissertation defense?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Semiaquilegia adoxoides
- Comment: 2nd and 3rd of 8 QPQs used on this review
TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:31, 26 May 2025 (UTC).
- @TonyTheTiger: DYK is in backlog mode, so please provide a second QPQ in 24 hours or this nom may be closed without warning. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Second QPQ added. Full review needed.--Launchballer 14:46, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 20
[edit]William Salter II, James White (North Carolina politician, died c. 1789)
- ... that William Salter II and James White were directors of the town of Elizabethtown, North Carolina, before the American Revolutionary War?
- Source: "Bladen County Deeds, 1734–1778" (PDF). Orange County California Genealogical Society.
- ALT1: ... that William Salter II and James White represented Bladen County in the Second North Carolina Provincial Congress and the North Carolina House of Burgesses in 1775? Source: "27th House of Burgesses - 1775". Carolana."Members of the 2nd Provincial Congress". Carolana.
- ALT2: ... that James White, the sheriff of Bladen County, North Carolina, deeded land to William Salter II before they represented the county together in the North Carolina General Assembly in 1775? Source: "Bladen County Deeds, 1734–1778" (PDF). Orange County California Genealogical Society."27th House of Burgesses - 1775". Carolana."Members of the 2nd Provincial Congress". Carolana.
- ALT3: ... that Sarah "Sallie" Salter, the wife of William Salter II, spied for the Patriots before the Battle of Elizabethtown? Source: Fox, Sara (March 13, 2023). "Sallie Salters and the Battle of Elizabethtown". The Bladen Journal.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nucleariid/Template:Did you know nominations/Francis W. Joaque
Aneirinn (talk) 23:41, 20 May 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: I definitely prefer ALT3, as it makes readers want to find out, how she spied. The first two don't seem very interesting to me, as they mention rather mundane facts. Munfarid1 (talk) 14:42, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 21
[edit]USCGC Dione
- ... that the crew of the US Coast Guard Cutter Dione repeatedly attacked the shipwrecks of oil tankers, believing them to be German U-boats?
- Source: Hickam, Homer H. (May 3, 1996). Torpedo Junction: U-Boat War Off America's East Coast, 1942. Naval Institute Press. ISBN 978-1-61251-578-6.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The link to the book (on Google books) is here: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Torpedo_Junction/Sh1iAgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1. I can't give page numbers but I can give rough locations: Page 3 of Chapter 3 and Page 3 of Chapter 4 are the best imo
PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 22:02, 21 May 2025 (UTC).
- You might want to wikilink the target article and show it in bold font. Schwede66 00:42, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
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- The links to the different articles should be separated, otherwise it is MOS:SEAOFBLUE. Or alternatively it can be "… that the US Coast Guard Cutter Dione repeatedly attacked the shipwrecks of oil tankers, believing them to be German U-boats?" Aneirinn (talk) 23:20, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Had to separate the two links in order to put Dione in italics but both now link to Dione’s page. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 10:09, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- It can be done like how it is in the above reply:
- I've done that then, and bolded it. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 23:39, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
[[USCGC Dione|US Coast Guard Cutter ''Dione'']] Aneirinn (talk) 19:54, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Make it "the crew of". I doubt very much that the ship itself made those decisions. Daniel Case (talk) 03:53, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Any update on this? Pinging you three (@Schwede66, @Aneirinn, and @Daniel Case) for life since nobody's replied further to this. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 15:02, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- I have no intention of reviewing the article. I only spotted a malformed hook. Schwede66 19:48, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- What do you mean? I fixed the hook per the feedback that was given. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 01:20, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- That means that I won't be the reviewer for this nomination. Schwede66 03:42, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
Yao Yuanjun
- ... that after Chinese Border Defense Police officer Yao Yuanjun was killed in action, his police dog continued to wait for him to return?
https://www.thepaper.cn/newsDetail_forward_13645312
https://www.sohu.com/a/476909010_267106 (Xinhua source)- Reviewed:
- Comment: Several comments:
1. Since the subject was in the Border Defense corps, which is part of the Ministry of Public Security Active Service Forces, I'm kinda unsure what to refer to him as, since MPSASF personnel were active service members. 2. I currently also have an approved nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Wang Xiaolong (Chinese coast guardsman), may I ask if this would interfere with anything 3. The 2 photos are non free fair use, so it cannot be put on the main page.
Thehistorianisaac (talk) 15:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC).
- Hi Thehistorianisaac, welcome to DYK. I have formatted the original hook and removed the repeated hooks. Regarding your questions:
1. "border police officer" may be sufficient for the hook in line with the lead of the article. 2. No, you have multiple DYK nominations running in parallel. 3. Non-free images cannot be used in DYK.
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- The reference is in Chinese. From Google translate, it seems that news agencies are saying as per the viral video, the dog is waiting for his master even after 10 years; rather than an independently verified fact that the dog is waiting. The article and the hook needs to be reworded. If my understanding is incorrect, please clarify.
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Overall: The article is currently at AfD. We will have to wait for the same to conclude, before approving the hook. Most of the references are Chinese news sites, private or state-owned (from Neutrality perspective). Redtigerxyz Talk 12:22, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- There isn't really a huge problem with sources, state owned media is usually considered reliable outside of controversial usages, and different language sources are also allowed; As for the hook, from my understanding, it's similar to the Hachiko story. Additionally, the AfD likely won't go very far anyways.Thehistorianisaac Talk 23:48, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Thehistorianisaac and Redtigerxyz: Article's been kept, what else needs doing?--Launchballer 14:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Afd has concluded as Keep. A RM is underway, however does not impact this DYK IMO.
- Assuming The Paper as reliable. "From Google translate, it seems that news agencies are saying as per the viral video, the dog is waiting for his master even after 10 years; rather than an independently verified fact that the dog is waiting. The article and the hook needs to be reworded. If my understanding is incorrect, please clarify." is unaddressed. The references are just saying that there is a viral video which claims that the dog is waiting for its master.
- I am okay to pass "ALT1 ... as per a viral video, the police dog of Yao Yuanjun was waiting for its master, 10 years after he was killed in action?" or similar. Redtigerxyz Talk 17:37, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 22
[edit]TechTV
- ... that TechTV host Kate Botello also performed the voice and motion capture of the network's animated mascot?
- Source: A Fond Farewell from Kate Botello ("I started out as both a Screen Saver and as the puppeteer and voice of Tilde.") and Meet Tilde ("As host of TechTV and of the show the TechTV Zip File...")
- ALT1: ... that an anime programming block that originally aired on TechTV was the inspiration for the founder of a Japanese animation studio? Source: SyFy ("In the early 2000s, Isom got hooked on the G4 "Anime Unleashed" program block. That was when he decided to become an animator, specifically in the world of anime.")
- ALT2: ... that Erica Hill anchored live coverage of the September 11 attacks on the technology-based cable channel TechTV? Source: CNN ("Hill joined the network from Tech TV in San Francisco, where she was co-anchor and correspondent for Tech Live, a 30-minute daily news magazine. Hill was on the air live when the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks began and anchored throughout the day and as events continued to unfold.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Somali Airlines Flight 40, Template:Did you know nominations/Heat: Pedal to the Metal
Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 22:16, 22 May 2025 (UTC).
Prince Mortimer
- ... that Prince Mortimer lived until 110 years old, and died in prison?
- Reviewed:
TriMuseumGeek (talk) 20:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC).
Hi TriMuseumGeek, thanks for you nomination. The article was moved to main space on 22 May so is new enough and is long enough. Unfortunately the sourcing is not up to DYK standards which require a source cited inline at the end of every paragraph as a minimum. I've added the article to the hook above. We need a citation in the article for him dying at 110 in prison (we would also have to say "approximately" to match the article). There are also some grammar issues with the article and it switches between past and present tense. Let me know if you can improve this to meet the criteria and I will take another look - Dumelow (talk) 07:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @TriMuseumGeek: Please address the above; I will fail this if this is not addressed in a week.--Launchballer 12:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay
- ... that the Dutch team (pictured) won the women's 4 × 400 metres relay at the 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships in a new championship record of 3:25.66 min?
- Source: "1 NED - NETHERLANDS 6 0.196 3:25.66 CR" (link)
- ALT1: ... that the team of the Netherlands (pictured) won the women's 4 × 400 metres relay at the 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships seconds ahead of the other teams? Source: "1 NED - NETHERLANDS 6 0.196 3:25.66 CR" / "2 ITA - ITALY 3 0.169 3:28.61 NR" (link)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jerzy Broszkiewicz
- Comment: A cropped version of the photo might work even better here.
Editør (talk) 14:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC).
- I don't see how either hook meets WP:DYKINT. Do you have any other proposals? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:21, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've incorporated one of the quotes in ALT2. Does that work for you? Let me know if you are looking for something else/specific. – Editør (talk) 11:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Femke Bol pulled away "with a superior acceleration" during the final of the women's 4 × 400 metres relay at the 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships (winning team pictured)? Source: Original Dutch: "Het Nederlandse kwartet liep de hele race aan de leiding. Startloper Klaver profiteerde optimaal van de gunstige buitenbaan 6 en kwam als eerste door. Saalberg en Peeters hielden de eerste positie knap vast, waarna Bol het met een superieure versnelling afmaakte." [English translation: "First runner Klaver took full advantage of the favorable outside lane 6 and came through first. Saalberg and Peeters held on to the first position, after which Bol finished it off with a superior acceleration."] (link)
- @Narutolovehinata5: ping – Editør (talk) 23:06, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Femke Bol pulled away "with a superior acceleration" during the final of the women's 4 × 400 metres relay at the 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships (winning team pictured)? Source: Original Dutch: "Het Nederlandse kwartet liep de hele race aan de leiding. Startloper Klaver profiteerde optimaal van de gunstige buitenbaan 6 en kwam als eerste door. Saalberg en Peeters hielden de eerste positie knap vast, waarna Bol het met een superieure versnelling afmaakte." [English translation: "First runner Klaver took full advantage of the favorable outside lane 6 and came through first. Saalberg and Peeters held on to the first position, after which Bol finished it off with a superior acceleration."] (link)
- I've incorporated one of the quotes in ALT2. Does that work for you? Let me know if you are looking for something else/specific. – Editør (talk) 11:57, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is there a way to shorten the bold link? It seems to be a distraction. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I don't think so. I believe this is how titles of the form 'Championships – Event" are typically displayed when there is only one title in the hook, see for instance the DYK hook for Talk:2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 400 metres. – Editør (talk) 09:23, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- I mean if there's an alternate way to word the link. Right now it feels like a distraction to the reader. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:41, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I tried that once before, but then the longer bold link was used for the hook, so I've used the longer bold link in my DYK rnominations since then. - Editør (talk) 11:48, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- To be honest, I'm not sure if that was the right decision, because personally I'd consider the longer bold link to fall under WP:DYKTRIM. Maybe other reviewers just didn't notice the issue but here it's rather obvious. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:22, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: In my experience, the most important part about the DYK nomination is that it is factually correct and the sentence works as a hook. Surely, I want to try and phrase it as well as possible, but when it can be completely rewritten in a later stage by a single author, I don't see the point in endless tweaking when all that work can be thrown out without notice. If you see a better way of working the long article title 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay into the hook, let me know. Besides that, is there anything else holding up this nomination? – Editør (talk) 00:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe something similar to how it was originally proposed in the nomination you linked? Just link to "women's 4 × 400 metres relay" and keep 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships as a separate mention, perhaps also avoiding linking it as being redundant to the main bolded link. It's like how the linked nomination just said "women's 400 metres hurdle at the 2024 European Athletics Championships." As for your other question, I was not planning to review this nomination, the hook just stood out when I was looking at DYKN (and not in a good way). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, I misunderstood. Well, thank you for noting your concern and for your suggestion. – Editør (talk) 00:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe something similar to how it was originally proposed in the nomination you linked? Just link to "women's 4 × 400 metres relay" and keep 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships as a separate mention, perhaps also avoiding linking it as being redundant to the main bolded link. It's like how the linked nomination just said "women's 400 metres hurdle at the 2024 European Athletics Championships." As for your other question, I was not planning to review this nomination, the hook just stood out when I was looking at DYKN (and not in a good way). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: In my experience, the most important part about the DYK nomination is that it is factually correct and the sentence works as a hook. Surely, I want to try and phrase it as well as possible, but when it can be completely rewritten in a later stage by a single author, I don't see the point in endless tweaking when all that work can be thrown out without notice. If you see a better way of working the long article title 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay into the hook, let me know. Besides that, is there anything else holding up this nomination? – Editør (talk) 00:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- To be honest, I'm not sure if that was the right decision, because personally I'd consider the longer bold link to fall under WP:DYKTRIM. Maybe other reviewers just didn't notice the issue but here it's rather obvious. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:22, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I tried that once before, but then the longer bold link was used for the hook, so I've used the longer bold link in my DYK rnominations since then. - Editør (talk) 11:48, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- I mean if there's an alternate way to word the link. Right now it feels like a distraction to the reader. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:41, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I don't think so. I believe this is how titles of the form 'Championships – Event" are typically displayed when there is only one title in the hook, see for instance the DYK hook for Talk:2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 400 metres. – Editør (talk) 09:23, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is there a way to shorten the bold link? It seems to be a distraction. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
A full review is still needed. – Editør (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 23
[edit]Episode 6465
- ... that the closing scene of Episode 6465 of the British soap opera Hollyoaks was shortlisted for "Scene of the Year" at the 2025 British Soap Awards?
- Source: [26]
- ALT1: ... that actress Jennifer Metcalfe used the experience of her father's cancer for acting out scenes in Episode 6465 of the British soap opera Hollyoaks? Source: [27]
- ALT2: ... that actress Jennifer Metcalfe hoped that closing scene of Episode 6465 of the British soap opera Hollyoaks would raise awareness of bowel cancer? Source: [28]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Irve Tunick
- Comment: Please let me know if I should tweak these or suggest another hook
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 04:01, 30 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 24
[edit]Washington D.C. Temple
- ... that the 'Washington D.C. Temple (pictured) was moved 60 feet to exactly align with the Capital Beltway, designed to inspire curiosity about what goes on inside?
- Source: “After the route of the Capital Beltway was finalized and before the groundbreaking, the location of the temple was adjusted sixty feet to line up perfectly with the Capital Beltway. This small adjustment has had repercussions for missionary work as many people, due to its visibility and beauty, stop by the temple seeking information about its purpose.” …“We hope the design does attract a great deal of attention so people will investigate the Church”
- https://rsc.byu.edu/latter-day-saints-washington-dc/washington-dc-temple-mr-smiths-church-goes-washington#_note-11
- ALT1: ... that the Washington D.C. Temple (pictured) is the tallest and third-largest temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by square footage?
- Source: "The Washington D.C. Temple is the tallest Latter-day Saint temple at 288 feet. It is the church's third-largest temple at nearly 160,000 square feet." https://www.ksl.com/article/50451955/president-nelson-to-rededicate-washington-dc-temple-on-aug-14
- ALT2: ... that the 'Washington D.C. Temple property (pictured) almost became a shopping center, but Zionist Jewish owners sold it cheaper to support temple construction?
- Source: “But in the case of the Washington D.C. Temple, the deal to purchase 57 acres of pristine woods overlooking the capital city in 1962 elicited a joyful surprise.”
- … “planned to construct a shopping mall and condominium complex.”
- “The (Jewish) men varied in their degree of “observance,” but they all identified deeply with their Jewish heritage, and were generous supporters of Jewish and Zionist causes.”
- "Kanfer said, 'We’ve decided we’re going to sell it to you for $14,000 an acre. Consider that $57,000 discount our donation for building the temple.'"
- https://www.deseret.com/faith/2022/3/20/22981180/the-washington-d-c-temple-sites-history-is-as-american-as-the-capital-city-itself-lds-temple/
- ALT3: ... that Maryland governor Larry Hogan said the Washington D.C. Temple (pictured) is an "iconic landmark", and a "beacon of hope"?
- Source: Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan, who attended Monday’s tour, called the temple an “iconic landmark” and a “beacon of hope.”
- https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2022/04/18/washington-dc-temple/
- ALT4: ... that the Washington D.C. Temple (pictured) was designed like the Salt Lake City Temple to be recognized as a temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
- Source: Source: “(Emily Utt) explained that the temple’s modern six-spire design was built in the image of the Salt Lake City temple, so that it’d be recognizable as an LDS building.”
- https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/04/18/for-the-first-time-in-50-years-you-can-tour-kensingtons-latter-day-saints-temple-2/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I've put the hooks in order of ones I think would work best for the page, along with links and citations to verify information. I'm willing to refine and tune the hooks given, and whichever hook that ends up working in the order I made should be the one that is displayed (unless there is consensus that one is more interesting than the other if multiple would work).
Itsetsyoufree32 (talk) 02:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC).
Reviewing... since it is a lengthy article, I might not post the finished review until tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 18:42, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: GA status achieved on May 24, and nominated for DYK on May 31. Length is adequate. Sourcing is mostly good, but I added one citation needed tag to a paragraph without a clear source. The tone overall is neutral, but some sections need work. In the first paragraph of the location section, there are consecutive sentences using "Capital Beltway" and "iconic landmark". For easier tone, these should be combined with a footnote to explain the sourcing. I suggesting using {{efn}}. The "location" section seems more about the cultural impact of "Surrender Dorothy" rather than the physical location. As such, as it seems misnamed, and out of place. In the "Design and architecture" section, this sentence makes no sense to me: "The central eastern tower is 288 feet (88 m) tall, the tallest of the church's temples at the time of its dedication". How can a tower be the tallest temple? Please clarify. In the same section, the terms "Melchizedek priesthood" and "Aaronic priesthood" should be linked to something, as a non-Mormon is unlikely to know their meaning. Hooks analysis: I cannot locate ALT0 anywhere in the article, ideally it should be in the "Construction: section. ALT1 is possibly cited in the second paragraph of the "Design and architecture" section, but the language is too dissimilar to verify. The cited passage should be very clear it is talk about the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and not just any church. ALT2 appears to be cited from multiple sentence in "The site" section, all of which will need a citation as per WP:DYKHFC. ALT3 is mentioned in the article, properly cited, and verified by the sources. ALT4 cannot be located in the article, specifically the proper noun "Salt Lake City Temple". Only 1 of 5 hooks adheres to DYK criteria at this time. All of the images used in the article have a public domain license on the Commons. The hook's image is used in the article, clear at a low resolution, and enahances the hook. QPQ is not required. Checks for plagiarism are still ongoing, and will take a while due to many quotes in the article. I have also done a lot of copyediting to the article for things that were not caught during the GA review. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 21:46, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- Clarifying my above comment: I am looking into whether WP:OVERQUOTING is a problem here. Flibirigit (talk) 21:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Cyborgs (film)
- ... that the Ukrainian film Cyborgs dramatizes the myth of the superhuman defenders of the Second Battle of Donetsk Airport?
- Source: Radio Liberty "Art Of War: Ukraine Explores Donbas Conflict On Screen, In Books" quote: "The tenacity and apparently superhuman ability of Ukrainian soldiers who fought at Donetsk airport ... earned them the respect of their nation and struck fear in the heart of their enemies - hence the nickname "cyborgs." Glavcom Режисер Ахтем Сеітаблаєв: Так, фільм «Кіборги» - це пропаганда. Пропаганда здорового глузду і смаку (in Ukrainian) translated quote: "The military drama about the defenders of the Donetsk airport "Cyborgs" became a real revelation for the Ukrainian audience."
- ALT1: ... that dialog in Cyborgs is in Ukrainian and Russian, showing the diversity of the defenders of the Second Battle of Donetsk Airport? Source: Glavcom Interview with director (in Ukrainian). Quote: Саме через цей контекст 40% наших героїв розмовляють російською мовою. Це було зроблене, аби підкреслити, що в Донецькому аеропорту, серед захисників було дуже багато людей, які не розмовляють українською мовою, але ми все рівно одна нація. Translation: "It is because of this context that 40% of our heroes speak Russian. This was done to emphasize that at the Donetsk airport, among the defenders there were a lot of people who do not speak Ukrainian, but we are all exactly one nation." and Griza et al, "Changes in the representation of heroes in contemporary Ukrainian cinema", Journal of European Studies 53(4) p 388. doi:10.1177/00472441231206550 Quote: "The film’s major goal is to demonstrate the diversity of those fighting for Ukraine."
- ALT2: ... that the Ukrainian film Cyborgs was released on the third anniversary of the battle it depicts? Source: Sources: Euromaidan Press "Story of the "cyborgs": Ukraine's Donetsk airport defenders to hit big screen" quote: "The theatrical release of the “Cyborgs” is symbolically planned for 6 December 2017, the third anniversary of the fall of the old Donetsk airport terminal."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Devizes Plot + Template:Did you know nominations/International Register of Electors
Reidgreg (talk) 15:37, 27 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 25
[edit]Niamey, History of Niamey
- ... that most of the population of Niamey has consisted of first- and second-generation immigrants since the city was established?
- Source: [29] In fact, through the last 120 years of its history, first- and second-generation migrants have constituted a substantial majority of the population.
- ALT1: ... that after plans for a railway in Niamey were cancelled during the Second World War, a station finally opened in the city in 2014? Source: [30] [...] the major public infrastructures and developments planned on this plan (railway station, green belt made of palm trees, etc.) were slow to be put in place (and were eventually abandoned) since the advent of the Second World War [...]
[31] (my translation) The inauguration of the first train station in Niamey took place this Monday, 7 April 2014 [...] - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edgar Matobato, Template:Did you know nominations/2020 Jonesboro tornado, Template:Did you know nominations/Civilization (magazine), Template:Did you know nominations/Everyone Hates Elon
- Comment: Open to alt hooks; hoping for a way to fit both articles in one hook.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:57, 1 June 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 26
[edit]KRCW-TV
... that an Oregon TV station went off the air for two to four weeks to complete a move—but didn't return for nearly two years?Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/statesman-journal-channel-32-goes-off-th/56354962/ + https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-sunday-oregonian-station-group-file/170229912/ (October 1992 to July 1994)
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:07, 1 June 2025 (UTC).
More quality work courtesy of Sammi Brie. All seems to be in order. The only qualm I have is with the precision of hook. Perhaps more correctly, the hook should indicate that the two-to-four-week off-air time was only planned. Otherwise, good work and looks like it'll easily pass. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: You make a good point. Let me throw an ALT1 your way: Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 04:52, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that an Oregon TV station planned to be off the air for two to four weeks to complete a move—but didn't return for nearly two years?
Stavatti Aerospace
- ... that in 2020, Stavatti Aerospace's only known facilities were a "one-person office suite" and a "machine shop ... slightly larger than a basketball court"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edward C. Stone, Template:Did you know nominations/Li Jinhua (diplomat)
Chetsford (talk) 05:47, 30 May 2025 (UTC).
New enough and long enough. Double QPQ present. Hook fact somewhat checks out but it also mentions a house that is missing in hook and in article. Chetsford, this isn't required for DYK, but consider clipping your Newspapers.com citations for accessibility by non-registered users (and in some cases clipping all pages of multi-page citations). Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 17:55, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Hong Wai Onn
- ... that Hong Wai Onn co-founded the IChemE Palm Oil Processing Special Interest Group to advance sustainable practices in the palm oil industry?
- ALT1: ... that Hong Wai Onn is the first Malaysian engineer to be granted the Freedom of the City of London?
- Source: https://www.theborneopost.com/2024/12/26/malaysian-double-record-holder-honoured-in-britishpedias-biographical-encyclopaedia/ https://www.icheme.org/knowledge-networks/communities/special-interest-groups/palm-oil-processing-sig/news/hong-wai-onn-gets-recognized-by-the-prestigious-freedom-of-the-city-of-london/
- Reviewed:
Bryony Jackson (talk) 05:58, 27 May 2025 (UTC).
Hi Bryony Jackson, a deletion nomination is pending on this page so it cannot be reviewed at this time. I also wanted to flag that the ALT1 hook would be discouraged under WP:DYKHOOKCITE:
Superlative hooks such as first/biggest/most are discouraged as they are regularly debunked at ERRORS.
. ALT0 honestly reads very, very promotionally. Given the discussion of a possible conflict of interest, both hooks may be rejectable if this page is kept and the nomination proceeds. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:18, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt
- ... that the Bill Maynard vehicle Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt was screenwriter Alan Plater's only sitcom?
- Source: Plater was best known for writing television dramas including Shoulder to Shoulder (1974) and The Stars Look Down (1975); Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt was his only foray into sitcom writing. Plater's involvement has been characterised as indicative of a maverick and prolific approach to television writing.
- ALT1: ... that Bill Maynard took inspiration from A Midsummer Night's Dream for his 1970s sitcom Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt? Source: Additionally, Maynard took inspiration from Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream, with Froggitt as Bottom and the committee at the working men's club as the mechanicals.[11][12]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: The image should only apply to my first hook and not the alt one. Thank you.
Humbledaisy (talk) 23:47, 27 May 2025 (UTC).
A new hook may be needed here as neither hook appears to meet WP:DYKINT. That is, neither hook seems to be appealing or eyecatching to a non-specialist audience, which in this context means people unfamiliar with Maynard or Plater. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Bill Maynard was inspired to make Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt by a man too muscular to fold his arms properly?
- ... that a reviewer complained that Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt had two funny lines per programme? Bremps... 02:56, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- I like that first one. I don't think the second one would work so well because the reviewer was reviewing to Selwyn, the retitled fourth season of the show, so it wouldn't be so snappy to mention that. Is it okay for me to add the first one? Humbledaisy (talk) 16:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Go for it, but the reviewer and promoter has the final say. Bremps... 17:13, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- I like that first one. I don't think the second one would work so well because the reviewer was reviewing to Selwyn, the retitled fourth season of the show, so it wouldn't be so snappy to mention that. Is it okay for me to add the first one? Humbledaisy (talk) 16:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Humbledaisy: Maybe it could be modified then? ... that a reviewer complained that Selwyn had two funny lines per programme? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:27, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry all, I'm not hugely familiar with how this works. That sounds fine but I also think the name Selwyn is less familiar to a UK audience than Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt and less interesting as a title. Apologies if I'm overstepping the mark here though. Humbledaisy (talk) 18:48, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- No no, it's your nomination. Suggest whatever. Whether it will be accepted by the reviewer and promoter is another matter. Bremps... 00:30, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry all, I'm not hugely familiar with how this works. That sounds fine but I also think the name Selwyn is less familiar to a UK audience than Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt and less interesting as a title. Apologies if I'm overstepping the mark here though. Humbledaisy (talk) 18:48, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Humbledaisy: Maybe it could be modified then? ... that a reviewer complained that Selwyn had two funny lines per programme? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:27, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Koumasa
- ... that a Minoan tomb at Koumasa in Crete was designed so that sunlight could illuminate its interior precisely at sunrise on the summer solstice?
- Source: This refers to Tholos E at Koumasa, which is oriented at a 67° azimuth to align with the solstice sunrise. On that day, the sun shines through the entrance and casts a beam of light up to 7 meters into the chamber—an effect lasting about 20 minutes. This precise alignment suggests a deliberate connection between funerary architecture and celestial events.
- Reviewed:
Mykne (talk) 05:43, 27 May 2025 (UTC).
- Reviewing. RecycledPixels (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Not all paragraphs contain at least one in-line citation. Example, Site description, Excavations (first paragraph). Some unsourced information in remainder of article. Article tagged for inline citations since August 2023
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- No citation given in nomination, article text is cited to reference #9, Ayash 2018, which appears to have an invalid doi. Article publication date also appears to be mis-cited, volume is correct, issue number is not provided, several different page number ranges are provided, then the entire 20 page range of the article is given at the end. The abstract of the article states that the interior is lit by the morning sunlight throughout the summer months, but on the summer solstice, the light reaches almost to the back of the tholos. Sole article author is listed as a PhD candidate, may have issues with reliable source.
- Interesting:
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: RecycledPixels (talk) 18:34, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
@RecycledPixels and Mykne: Prose size is determined by character count not bytesize, on which basis this has been expanded 8.25x. You'll need to remedy the tags in the article before this can go anywhere though.--Launchballer 16:13, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- Apparently, I was looking at Prose size (including all HTML code) instead of Prose size (text only) on the original revision. Sorry about that. I've changed the "new enough" tag. RecycledPixels (talk) 16:23, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Five domains
... that the Five Domains model is frequently used when determining whether euthanasia is appropriate in animals?
- Source: Nevertheless, recall that when the intensity of one or more of the survival-critical negative affects is significant, animals are often demotivated from utilising existing opportunities to engage in behaviours that would be accompanied by situation-related positive affects.This could be informative with regard to end-of-life decision-making.
- Reviewed: none
CoconutOctopus talk 20:06, 26 May 2025 (UTC).
Article is new enough, long enough, and within policy. No copyright violations detected. I do have two issues to raise. The first is the title. The term "five domains" is very generic, and I don't think the article should remain at this title. There are other concepts in published academic literature that use the term "five domains" like the "five domains of athletic training", the "five domains of social determinants of health", or the "five domains of child development" to name just a few. I would strongly suggest moving the article to something like the Five Domains Model for Animal Welfare because it is clear and is not likely to be confused with other concepts which use the terminology "five domains".
- The second issue is with the verification of the hook. Currently, the hook is not directly stated in the body of the article with an inline citation following the fact as required by our policy at WP:DYKCRIT. There is similar language but not exactly the same. There is no statement in the article saying that the FDM model is frequently used in the context of euthanasia decisions. The lead statement does say that the model has been "widely adopted and endorsed" but that fact is not supported in the body of the article with inline citations. You must be careful to not draw conclusions in the lead that are not stated in the body with supporting sources. Mellor, does not address the frequency of use of the FDM model, and the quote in question is only saying the model "could be informative with regard to end-of-life decision-making", not that it is frequently used in questions involving the euthanasia in animals. In looking at Mellor, that source doesn't address the frequent use of the model anywhere. That said, Hampton, Hemsworth, et. al does state the model is frequently used in evaluating animal welfare, but does not address the issue of euthanasia. So here we have an original conclusion in the hook not found in any one source and not stated in the article. This is both a WP:SYNTH/WP:VERIFICATION problem. Per WP:DYKCRIT policy, we need a new hook fact that is directly stated in the article, and verified to a source that has the same fact/content in it. That source should be cited directly after the sentence with the hook fact.
- Please propose new hooks below for me to review and ping me when ready. Make sure the hook fact is stated directly in the article with an inline citation immediately following. The fact must not contain original analysis or conclusions through a synthesis of sources. Also double check that all statements/facts/conclusions in the lead are in the body with citations, and that all conclusions directly match conclusions made in a source. There should be no original conclusions in the lead or body that can't be directly found in a single source. Best.4meter4 (talk) 17:42, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've fixed the lead issues you identified, and have a new hook which I'll place below that I believe meets the criteria! I disagree with the page renaming - the five domains model is widely called just that, and is the primary topic found when "five domains" is searched on a regular or a scholar search, and by far the most common usage of the term. I also think it is a much more concise and relevant title to searches.
@4meter4: courtesy ping CoconutOctopus talk 19:27, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Possible new hook:
... that the five domains model of animal welfare seeks to ensure animals have a "life worth living"?
- Mellor, David (14 March 2016). "Updating Animal Welfare Thinking: Moving beyond the "Five Freedoms" towards "A Life Worth Living"". Animals. 6 (3): 21. doi:10.3390/ani6030021. PMC 4810049. PMID 27102171.
... that the World Association of Zoos and Aquaria suggests the five domains model be used when measuring animal welfare in zoos?
- Mellor, David J. "Caring for Wildlife" (PDF). World Association for Zoos and Aquaria.
I don't feel comfortable promoting this to the main page because the title is likely to be challenged in my opinion. The term "domain" as a concept is used across the sciences and education praxis in a variety of conceptual frameworks, and having "five domains" isn't unique to this one specific model. "Five domains" isn't a clearly definable term in my opinion. I note the topic is given in some publications as the Five Domains Model (such as https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/7/8/60) as a three word proper name. Others lowercase the m (such as https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/animal-welfare/article/extending-the-five-domains-model-for-animal-welfare-assessment-to-incorporate-positive-welfare-states/867B8AB2C3D6CA25A35B54C0311ECD57) but almost every paper title includes the phrase "Five Domains Model/model" as a consistent way of referring to the concept, and most often it is first introduced in paper titling with the words animal welfare. Additionally, pretty much every source capitalizes the D in Five Domains (including the RSPCA site https://www.rspcaqld.org.au/blog/animal-welfare/the-five-domains and the many journals used in the article). The wikipedia article should not have a lowercase d, and I would oppose a redirect with a lowercase because Five domains is a generic name that can refer to any five domains; whereas "Five Domains" is a proper name of the model. At the very least I think the additional word model should be added to the wikipedia article's title in addition to capitalizing the d/D in Five Domains. As I am opposed to the current article title, I am calling for a second opinion.4meter4 (talk) 00:29, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know that it's a valid reason to hold up DYK, but yeah, it's poorly named. I suggest Five domains model, which I see is already a redirect. See also Wikipedia:Article titles. RoySmith (talk) 01:20, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- @RoySmith The D is capitalized in the literature. It should be Five Domains model. To be clear Five Domains is the proper name of the model. Using lowercase letters is a grammatical error. It would be like calling the White House (the official residence of the US President) the white house (which could mean any white house). They are two different things. An obvious grammar issue like this would end up at WP:ERRORS and the hook would be pulled. If we see a likely disputable problem we don't promote articles as they are likely to be unstable.4meter4 (talk) 01:27, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
I've been WP:BOLD and moved the article to that title. I'll let another editor take over the review from here.4meter4 (talk) 01:46, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- @CoconutOctopus: Neither of the last two hooks check out; the world association sentence in the article doesn't include the phrase 'in zoos' and the life worth living hook doesn't appear in the article at all.--Launchballer 12:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 27
[edit]Thinking Machines Lab
- ... that artificial intelligence startup Thinking Machines Lab aims "to make AI systems more widely understood, customizable, and generally capable"?
- Source: "Thinking Machines Lab aims to “make A.I. systems more widely understood, customizable and generally capable,” according to a blog post from the new company. It said it would freely share its technologies with outside researchers and companies, a practice known as “open source.”"
Thriley (talk) 17:31, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Lenny Brown
- ... that Lenny Brown (pictured) was prepared to leave his college basketball team after two games, but stayed and became one of their all-time leading scorers?
- Source: Cincinnati Enquirer (p2 - section "Getting out of Xavier") and e.g. this for one of their all-time leading scorers
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Samuel Freeman House & pending
- Comment: To do QPQs within two days.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:23, 3 June 2025 (UTC).
Date, size, refs, neutrality, hook, copyvio spotcheck, fine. Waiting for QPQs. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:01, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Luis Aranaz
- ... that Luis Aranaz captained Sabadell to two Segunda División titles in 1943 and 1946?
- Reviewed:
Luis7M (talk) 17:22, 3 June 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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Overall: The hook is verified, but it's on the border for me if it's "interesting". I'll mark it down as such since leading a team to 2 titles is notable. The article does not read neutrally/encyclopedic. I know that the tone of sports articles is different on Wikipedia, but this one sounds too promotion in my opinion. I think it should be rewritten to be more neutral. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 00:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Johann Sebastian Bach
- ... that for the 250th anniversary of the death of Johann Sebastian Bach in 2000, three record companies issued recordings of his complete compositions?
- Source: "Bach Edition" Archived 10 November 2016 at the Wayback Machine at www
.musicweb-international .com 1 December 2001. Teldec's 1999 Bach 2000 Box set, Limited Edition Archived 12 October 2016 at the Wayback Machine at www .amazon .com Bach-Edition: The Complete Works (172 CDs & CDR) Archived 29 September 2015 at the Wayback Machine at the Hänssler Classic website
- ALT1: ... that for nearly 150 years after his death, the grave of Johann Sebastian Bach remained unmarked? Source: ... in the absence of any tombstone his grave was soon forgotten. When St John's Church was rebuilt in 1894 a few Leipzig scholars and Bach admirers succeeded in having what were believed to be the composer's bones exhumed. ... The bones were laid to rest in a stone sarcophagus next to the poet Gellert in the vaults of the Johanniskirche, and many people went to pay homage to this tomb.
- Reviewed: Paul Corey and Java-class cruiser
- Comment: ALT0 is 148 characters. ALT1 is 96 characters.
Storye book (talk) 17:31, 1 June 2025 (UTC).
@Storye book: Wow, Bach as a GA! New enough (promoted May 27), much more than long enough (50 KB), no copyvio (Earwig flags a copy of Wikipedia as well as an attributed quote). However, DYK has more specific sourcing requirements than GA, and there are a few statements in this article that are unsourced—in the second paragraph of "18th century" and the second paragraph of "20th century". The latter statement, in particular, requires some good sourcing as it's about popular culture depictions.
As for the hooks, I don't think ALT0 is that interesting, but ALT1 is quite interesting. Hook cited and verified in source (which does appear to be reliable). — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:15, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
Queen Afua
- ... that Queen Afua inspired New York City mayor Eric Adams to become a vegan?
- Source: Jewish Currents article
- Reviewed:
NotBartEhrman (talk) 23:12, 31 May 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
- Currently at AfD
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Quite promotional in tone
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. The "Early life" and "Career" sections are quite promotional in tone and should be reworded neutrally. DYK hook is interesting and supported by the source. The main problem is the article is currently at AfD, which is why I'm putting this nomination on hold until it's closed. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:57, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- While we wait for the AFD to close, I'd be happy to hear specific details on how to make the article more neutral in tone. Unfortunately I couldn't find sources that thoroughly investigated her claims about her early life. NotBartEhrman (talk) 00:27, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @NotBartEhrman: For example, the Career section contains the sentence
Afua's writing on women's health emphasizes consciousness of fertility as key to awakening pride and sense of the sacred self...
, which is not mentioned anywhere in the 71 page source that it cites. Several other puffery sentences like this exist. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 10:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @NotBartEhrman: For example, the Career section contains the sentence
2025 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay
- ... that the Dutch women's 4 × 400 metres relay team won their third consecutive title (finish pictured) at the European Athletics Indoor Championships in 2025?
- ALT1 ... that the cheers were "deafening" when the Dutch team won the women's 4 × 400 metres relay at the 2025 European Athletics Indoor Championships (finish pictured) before a home crowd? Source: "In de finale van de 4×400 meter voor vrouwen bleef het zondagavond lang spannend, toen Bol en de Britse slotloopster naast elkaar de laatste bocht indoken. Maar toen zette Bol, indoor de snelste vrouw op de 400 meter ooit, aan en werd het gat met elke pas groter. Op de streep was het verschil ruim een halve seconde – en het gejuich oorverdovend." [English translation: In the final of the women's 4 × 400 metres on Sunday evening, it remained exciting for a long time, when Bol went into the last bend next to the British anchor runner. But then Bol, the fastest woman in the 400 metres indoors ever, pushed on and the gap grew bigger with every stride. At the finish line, the difference was more than half a second – and the cheers deafening.] (link)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Harry Wunsch, Template:Did you know nominations/Bob Kercher
Editør (talk) 14:39, 30 May 2025 (UTC).
Carmel Naughton
- ... that despite being told that girls were "stupid and couldn't do maths", Carmel Naughton has supported girls, and boys, through the Naughton Foundation's STEM scholarship fund since 2017? Source: https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/business-of-sport/arid-40934372.html https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/arid-20460705.html https://naughton.nd.edu/news-and-social/events/2025/01/28/naughton-masters-deadline/
Bogger (talk) 16:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC).
- I shall review this. Storye book (talk) 15:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Thank you for this interesting article about a philanthropist. Yes, some of us remember the misogyny of yesteryear. My sister and I wanted to join the British Navy, but were told, "the only thing that you will be navigating, my dears, will be a desk" (I later became a SCUBA diving instructor with RYA qualifications, and ran my own dive boat. Hah.) Girl power! Storye book (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: I have given the article a minor copyedit for Standard English. That does not affect DYK.
- The article says that at an unnamed school, nuns told Naughton that girls were stupid etc. The article also happens to mention the name of a school (St Louis Monaghan) that Naughton attended. If the school with nuns and insults was not St Louis Monaghan, then that should be made clear, for obvious reasons.
- ALT0 has 186 characters. That is not beyond the 200-character limit for DYK hooks, but it still looks a bit wordy. Can you suggest a shorter, punchier hook?
- If we can resolve the above two issues, then this nomination should be good to go. Storye book (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Baynesville, Virginia
- ... that one of the first African-American postmasters was for the Baynesville, Virginia post office?
- Reviewed:
Firsfron of Ronchester 15:01, 27 May 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
- Currently at AFD; most of the article concerns the post office rather than the settlement.
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- "one of the first" is not accurate to the source, which has dozens of entries before Johnson (1893).
- Interesting:
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Will have to be on hold while the AFD is still active. The article does need major reworking to focus on the settlement, so I'm leaning a no on this one. SounderBruce 03:45, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. I'd say WH Johnson was one of the first in a list of firsts, but Your Mileage May Vary. What do you think of this alternate hook? ...that one of the first African-American postmasters in the US state of Virginia was for the Baynesville, Virginia post office?
- Also, there are only three paragraphs about the post office, which is definitely not the majority of the article. :) Firsfron of Ronchester 04:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce and Firsfron: AfD was withdrawn. What else needs doing here?--Launchballer 12:52, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, Launchballer. I've suggested an alternate hook, and as you say, the AFD was withdrawn. Firsfron of Ronchester 01:42, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) I still don't think "one of the first" is an accurate claim based on the source given. The line about him being appointed instead of a former Confederate soldier would be a more compelling (and accurate) hook. SounderBruce 01:44, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm totally okay with an alternate hook of your choice. Firsfron of Ronchester 14:32, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
- @SounderBruce and Firsfron: AfD was withdrawn. What else needs doing here?--Launchballer 12:52, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 28
[edit]Nikolay Alyokhin
- ... that when young, fencer Nikolay Alyokhin was slapped by a coach and told "You're not talented", but he went on to be a world and Olympic champion?
- Source: Sovetsky Sport ("[after talking about his victories as a youth]...And the coach who trained world and Olympic champions, Alexander Fel, just slapped Alekhine in the forehead: "You're not talented." How can you maintain your mood and motivation after that?") + e.g. Argumenty i Fakty for victories
- Reviewed: to do
- Comment: To do QPQs within two days.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:55, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Isabel Gutiérrez del Arroyo
- ... that Isabel Gutiérrez del Arroyo considered preserving Puerto Rican history "the best way to serve her people"? Source: Entendió que investigar y rescatar la historia de Puerto Rico era el mejor instrumento de servicio a su pueblo./She understood that researching and preserving Puerto Rican history was the best way to serve his people.
ミラP@Miraclepine 22:25, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Diagnostic overshadowing in autism
- ... that that chronic pain or depression in autistic people is sometimes misread as “just part of autism,” delaying diagnosis and care?
- Source: “Autistic individuals... experience elevated rates of chronic physical conditions, yet symptoms are often dismissed as part of autism rather than investigated as medical concerns.”
- — Diagnostic overshadowing in autism article, citing:
- Buie et al., 2010. Evaluation, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Gastrointestinal Disorders in Individuals With ASDs: A Consensus Report. PMID: 20048083
- ALT1: ... that that older autistic adults may go untreated for conditions like sensory loss, pain, or memory decline because their symptoms are wrongly attributed to autism?
- Source: “Older autistic adults... may be at heightened risk for misattributed cognitive decline (e.g., assuming communication challenges reflect autism when it may signal aging-related dementia or memory loss), untreated sensory loss... or inadequate pain management.”
- — Diagnostic overshadowing in autism article, citing:
- Hand et al., 2020. Prevalence of physical and mental health conditions in Medicare-enrolled, autistic older adults. PMID: 31773968
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first DYK nomination. This article highlights a significant and under-recognized health equity issue in autism: how co-occurring conditions like chronic pain or memory decline may be missed due to diagnostic overshadowing.
PulsarPen (talk) 17:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Jeannie Rice
- ... that multiple world record runner Jeannie Rice has the highest VO2 max ever recorded in a woman older than 75?
- ALT1: ... that multiple world record runner Jeannie Rice has the VO2 max of a woman fifty years younger than her?
- Source: Cimons, Marlene (2025-04-20). "At 77, she's as fit as a 25-year-old. What her body tells us about aging". The Washington Post. ISSN 0190-8286. Retrieved 2025-06-04.
- ALT2: ... that runner Jeannie Rice is setting world records past seventy years of age?
- ALT3: ... that Jeannie Rice went from running to lose weight to running to set world records?
- Source: Initially: "The golden girl getting faster". World Marathon Majors. Retrieved 2025-05-27.
- After: https://www.womensrunning.com/culture/advice-for-runners-of-all-ages-from-a-71-year-old-world-record-holder/
- Source: https://archive.ph/blC9Q
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tax Heaven 3000
- Comment: Pretty feel-good story
Bremps... 16:09, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Terrorism Confinement Center
- ... that the Terrorism Confinement Center (pictured) has a capacity of 40,000 inmates, one of the largest in the world?
- Source: Murray, Christine; Smith, Alan & Cook, Christopher (6 March 2023). "Inside El Salvador's Mega-Prison: The Jail Giving Inmates Less Space than Livestock". Financial Times. Mexico City and London. Retrieved 8 March 2023.
- ALT1: ... that the Terrorism Confinement Center (pictured) has inspired several Latin American leaders to build similar prisons? Source: Ioanes, Ellen (20 June 2024). "Why Latin American Leaders are Obsessed with Mega Prisons". Vox. Retrieved 21 June 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Luis Aranaz
PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 23:58, 3 June 2025 (UTC).
Irene D. Paden
- ... that Irene D. Paden turned a family summer vacation into a book on American westward expansion trails? Source: From 1932 to 1940 he accompanied his parents, Irene and William G. Paden, across the country every summer in their 1932 Dodge as they explored the California Trail, blazed by pioneers heading west from Independence 100 years earlier. + Mrs. Paden in her own charming way told the story of adventure and excitement covering the nine years she spent gathering data and material which make her book an interesting, authentic and important contribution to the history of the west. It is a detailed, close-up story of the emigrant trails which bore the great American migration from east to west.
- ALT1: ... that Irene D. Paden spent decades retracing the routes of American westward expansion trails all the way to Missouri? Source: With her late husband, Alameda School Superintendent Dr. William G. Paden, she traced the Pioneer routes from Missouri to California for more than 30 years. Traveling by jeep, as well as by horseback, car, pickup truck and afoot, they often could cover a day's ox-cart journey in 20 minutes.
- ALT2: ... that despite self-identifying as a "housewife", Irene D. Paden spent decades retracing the routes of American westward expansion trails all the way to Missouri? Source: Irene Dakin Paden (1888-1974), self-styled "housewife," + ALT0
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Boyd Jones and Template:Did you know nominations/David Viaene
ミラP@Miraclepine 14:51, 2 June 2025 (UTC).
- Comment not review @Miraclepine: the hooks include "westward expansion trails", I suggest "westward expansion trails" would be better, if you prefer westward expansion it needs to be replaced with [[Territorial evolution of the United States|westward expansion]] as, per WP:DYK200, links to redirect pages are not allowed in hooks. TSventon (talk) 15:24, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon: Ah, the one rule I keep forgetting like a million times. I've fixed the hooks accordingly. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:53, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
Stuart Stanton (surgeon)
- ... that surgeon Stuart Stanton popularised an operation for stress incontinence?
- Source: " he learnt the Burch colposuspension which was originally described by the American gynaecologist John Burch, itself a modification of the Marshall Marchetti Kranz procedure a retropubic urethropexy. His research and influence popularised this surgery so that it became the most popular procedure for urinary stress incontinence worldwide" International Continence Society
- Reviewed: Rockbank railway station & Pro Plancio
- Comment: FYI, this was created in the hope of being the 7 millionth article.
Andrew🐉(talk) 19:32, 1 June 2025 (UTC).
How Do You Do (Shakira song)
- ... that Shakira's song "How Do You Do" was banned across the Middle East due to its lyrics addressing God in a way considered blasphemous?
- Reviewed:
1arch (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2025 (UTC).
Taraxacum akteum
- ... that Taraxacum akteum was first identified in some parts of Britain in 2016, more than 40 years after it was described from Dutch coastal meadows?
MallardTV Talk to me! 13:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC).
Operators and Things
- ... that the Nashville Banner said Operators and Things would both interest laymen and impress professionals due to its thorough examination of the unconscious self? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/nashville-banner/172319537/
- ALT1: ... that a book described as "an absorbing account of life in the dream world of a schizophrenic" was written by an anonymous author? Source: "Operators and Things: The Inner Life of a Schizophrenic". Publishers Weekly. Vol. 207, no. 5. F. Leypoldt. February 3, 1975. p. 44.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Hillbilly Thomists
- Comment: Tried my best to come up with some real interesting hooks for article 7 mil, would love other suggestions from the current text or if more is added in the future. ALT1 I was a bit unsure about the wording of anonymous vs pseudonymous, but per discussion at Talk:Operators and Things#Replace anonymous with pseudonymous? landed on this. ALT1 is also linked to an offline source, I've asked the author on their talkpage for a scan or equivalent of the source, given the shifting winds I see in regards to AGF sources.
PixDeVl (T | C | G) 21:59, 31 May 2025 (UTC).
- @PixDeVl: You can just google the quote from Publishers Weekly and look on Google Books and find it that way. Also it's on the back of the 2011 version, I believe, or at the very least it's on the Amazon.com page for the 2011 publishing. Therapyisgood (talk) 01:08, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Therapyisgood: found and verified, thank you! Never thought to just search it funny enough, I queried the whole citation and even combed the Internet Archives a bit for the issue. Cheers! --PixDeVl (T | C | G)
- How about something like '...that the author of the 1958 autobiographical account (memoir?) Operators and Things, describing a schizophrenic author's experiences with "operators", has never been identified?' or even simply '...that the anonymous 1958 autobiographical account Operators and Things describes a woman's onset and recovery from schizophrenia, aided by "operators"?'
- I like this "has never been identified" version, that's a proper hook for a "did you know". Mateussf (talk) 11:16, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Mateussf: I like that former hook, I'd add that as an ALT2, but it may be a little bit long(WP:DYKTRIM). Not super sure on memoir vs account. --PixDeVl (T | C | G) 15:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- I like this "has never been identified" version, that's a proper hook for a "did you know". Mateussf (talk) 11:16, 2 June 2025 (UTC)
2024 Summer Olympics boxing controversy
- ... that the organisation that disqualified Imane Khelif on gender ineligibility grounds in 2023 was expelled from the Olympic movement that same year for governance failures?
- Reviewed:
Boxes7313 (talk) 12:07, 28 May 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Page expanded from 14,645 bytes to 58,627 by nominator, short of the 73,225 necessary (and further cut by another editor)
- Long enough:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Earwig is giving 46.2% here and looks like that's fairly accurate.
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Source doesn't mention Khelif at all
- Interesting:
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Hi, @Boxes7313: There are several issues with this page, but the main one is that this page hasn't been expanded by 5x by the nominator. Should you expand the page in the future, please feel free to renominate! Best of luck in your future editing, ThaesOfereode (talk) 23:52, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
@ThaesOfereode: 5x expansion is based on character size, not bytesize, on which this is eligible (2702 --> 16965). @Boxes7313: should be given time to remedy the other issues.--Launchballer 15:08, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Apologies. That's a failure on my end. @Boxes7313: I apologize; please feel free to make the appropriate changes above. I have corrected the review in the meantime. ThaesOfereode (talk) 15:14, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Please link the target article and show the link in bold font. Schwede66 04:04, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
- The hook is more so about an org than Khelif. Bremps... 16:13, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the eligibility of Imane Khelif and Lin Yu-ting at the Paris Olympic Games drew international attention?--Launchballer 16:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on May 29
[edit]At the Time of the Louisville Flood
- ... that a famous photo taken at the time of the Louisville Flood refers neither to Louisville nor the flood?
- Sources: Callahan, Sean (1972). The Photographs of Margaret Bourke-White. New York Graphic Society. p. 18-19. ISBN 9780821206560. OCLC 2366234. Quote:"Less than a year after Bourke-White's Fort Peck essay, what is probably her most famous individual photograph emerged from her coverage of the Ohio River flood of 1937, among the greatest natural disasters in American history. The photo shows a relief line of flood refugees in Louisville..."; Walker, John A. (May 1978). "Reflections on a photograph by Margaret Bourke-White". Creative Camera. 167. pp. 2, 7. ISSN 0011-0876. Quote: "The photograph itself gives no indication that a flood has occurred...Since the photograph itself makes no reference to a flood or to Louisville, only those featured in the photograph, or who helped to produce it, or who read the article in Life would be aware of its specific spatio-temporal point of origin."
- ALT1: ... that to photograph disaster victims of the Ohio River flood for Life magazine, Margaret Bourke-White hitchhiked by boat into downtown Louisville?
- Source: Bourke-White, Margaret (1963). Portrait of Myself. New York: Simon and Schuster. pp. 149. OCLC 630874. Quote: "I caught the last plane to Louisville, then hitchhiked my way from the mud-swamped airport to the town. To accomplish the last stretch of this journey, I thumbed rides in rowboats and once on a large raft. These makeshift craft were bringing food packages and bottles of clean drinking water to marooned families and seeking out survivors. Working from the rowboats gave me good opportunities to record acts of mercy as they occurred."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Day One (The Last of Us); Template:Did you know nominations/The Oceanic Languages
- Comments: Margaret Bourke-White, who died in 1971, will have her 121st birthday on June 14. I am requesting, if at all possible, that this hook be run on that day.
Viriditas (talk) 00:55, 5 June 2025 (UTC).
Man of the Year (Lorde song)
- ... that Lorde wrote a song about herself called "Man of the Year" the day after attending GQ's 'Men of the Year' party in 2023?
- Reviewed:
Judegr03 (talk) 07:48, 3 June 2025 (UTC).
Sayuti Abubakar
- ... that Sayuti Abubakar received a recommendation to become Vice Governor of Aceh from the former governor in prison? Source: [32]: “Dewan Pimpinan Pusat (DPP) Partai Nanggroe Aceh (PNA) menetapkan Sayuti Abubakar sebagai Calon Wakil Gubernur (Cawagub) Aceh […]. Surat itu diteken Ketua Umum PNA Irwandi Yusuf di penjara Suka Miskin. ”
Juxlos (talk) 17:52, 29 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 30
[edit]Nancy Broadfield Parkinson, George Mearns Savery, Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones
- ... that Dame Nancy Broadfield Parkinson attended a school which was founded by George Mearns Savery and developed by Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones (pictured)?
- Source: Hewlett, Dorothy (1981). Harrogate College 1893-1973. North Yorkshire, England: Harrogate College. ISBN 9780950742700.
- ALT1: ... that George Mearns Savery founded Harrogate Ladies' College, Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones (pictured) developed it, and Dame Nancy Broadfield Parkinson was a pupil there? Source: Hewlett, Dorothy (1981). Harrogate College 1893-1973. North Yorkshire, England: Harrogate College. ISBN 9780950742700.
- Reviewed: Academy of Music (Atlantic City, New Jersey), Death of Abisay Cruz, Gabriel Rucker, Meatball (black bear), Carmel Naughton and My Schizophrenic Life
- Comment: (1)
Four QPQs provided so far; two QPQs pending.Six QPQs are now completed. (2) All three articles moved to mainspace on 30 May 2025.
Storye book (talk) 07:49, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
The Zelensky Effect
- ... that the authors of The Zelensky Effect analysed material from President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's entertainment career in the context of the development of civic national identity in Ukraine?
- Source: The Zelensky Effect, p29 and 30 (pages freely available via Google Books in chapter 1 "Global Hero", although Google Books doesn't show page numbers):
- "Throughout, we provide a nuanced analysis of the content of Zelensky's Kvartal 95 concert performances and Servant of the People television series, which wind up yielding considerable insight into the Zelensky Effect at the core of our account."
- And "First, we employed extensive qualitative data and conducted detailed discourse and content analysis of the following: Kvartal 95 skits and songs (in original language); Servant of the People television series transcripts (in original language as well as translations)..."
- Extra source for civic national identity: [33] "It explains what happens when a leader works creatively and consistently to shore up what social scientists call ‘civic national identity’, an inclusive version of who belongs to the nation, and links it to democratic, pro-European and liberal values."
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Earwig shows a high similarity percentage mainly because of the authors' job titles and quoted reviews of the book.
- I welcome scrutiny of the summary section - this is my first book article and I couldn't find much guidance on summarising a book's contents while avoiding close paraphrasing (especially since one of the tips for avoiding close paraphrasing is to use multiple sources, which doesn't work for a summary of a single book). I tried to avoid excess detail and summarise in my own words while preserving the most important points. Thanks!
Helpful Cat🐈(talk) 17:03, 3 June 2025 (UTC).
Clermont (novel)
- ... that the novel Clermont by Regina Maria Roche was critiqued as an imitation of Anne Radcliffe's work, later gaining positive attention through Jane Austen's mention of it in Northanger Abbey?
- Source: Morin, Christina (2018), "Gothic materialities: Regina Maria Roche, the Minerva Press, and the bibliographic spread of Irish gothic fiction", The gothic novel in Ireland, c. 1760–1829, Manchester University Press, pp. 170, 154–195, doi:10.2307/j.ctv3zp024.9, ISBN 978-0-7190-9917-5, JSTOR j.ctv3zp024.9, retrieved 10 May 2025
- Reviewed:
JV MoE (talk) 14:28, 1 June 2025 (UTC).
Nazaruddin Dek Gam
- ... that Nazaruddin Dek Gam bought the Persiraja football club after several of the wealthiest men in Aceh refused to? Source: [34]: " Ada cerita menarik dibalik penguasaan 80 persen saham mayoritas oleh Nazaruddin alias Dek Gam. Ternyata proses lobi sudah dilakukan terhadap 10 orang juragan di Banda Aceh" -> "There is an interesting story behind the control of 80 percent of the majority shares by Nazaruddin alias Dek Gam. It turns out that the lobbying process has been carried out against 10 bosses in Banda Aceh." & "Dari nama-namanya boleh di bilang mereka orang terkaya di Aceh" -> "From their names, you could say they are the richest people in Aceh"
Juxlos (talk) 00:51, 31 May 2025 (UTC).
Door Kickers 2: Task Force North
- ... that Door Kickers 2: Task Force North was released in early access after a fan asked the developers to "release the damn game"?
- ALT1: ... that after four years in development hell and two delays, Door Kickers 2: Task Force North was released in early access because a fan asked the developers to? Source: PC Gamer, Steam Forums; just alternate wording to emphasize how silly this is
- ALT2: ... that when a fan asked the developers of Door Kickers 2: Task Force North to "release the damn game", they did? Source: PC Gamer, Steam Forums; same reason as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Future I Saw
- Comment: Yeah, I'm kind of riding on this factoid carrying it into DYK. I personally favor ALT2 followed by ALT0.
AdoTang (talk) 23:29, 30 May 2025 (UTC).
Fire-eye
- ... that the fire-eye antbirds' (pictured) calls instead of songs are used to tell the species apart?
- Source: In a 2017 study, researchers found that "when [they] examined Pyriglena
vocalizations in this context, the outcomes revealed substantial diversity in their calls, rather than their songs [thus it] underscores the need to consider all vocalizations in taxonomic studies."
https://doi.org/10.11646%2Fzootaxa.4291.2.3- Reviewed:
Tkronos1 (talk) 13:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC).
Alifuddin
- ... that Indonesian legislator Alifuddin pushed for the passage of an anti-LGBT "Family Resilience" law in response to the publicization of an incest fantasy Facebook group?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Strudlhof Steps (novel) and Template:Did you know nominations/Regan Garden
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 04:31, 30 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on May 31
[edit]Easy Lover (Miley Cyrus song)
- ... that "Easy Lover" was almost a collaboration between Miley Cyrus and Beyoncé?
- ALT1: ... that "Easy Lover" included a verse referencing Beyoncé but was later redefined? Source: Vibe, Elle
- ALT2: ... that "Easy Lover" was intended for three different albums before its release? Source: Vibe, Elle
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Taraxacum brachyglossum
CatchMe (talk · contribs) 12:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC).
Yulius Selvanus
- ... that governor of North Sulawesi, Indonesia, Yulius Selvanus used his parents' clan names for "personal branding"? Source: [37]: "'Jadi saya mau pakai Lumbaa atau Komaling selama beradminstrasi ya pakai sesuai KTP dan itu personal branding saja,' jelasnya": "'So whether I use Lumbaa or Komaling, I use KTP [his legal name] for administrative purposes, and that's just for personal branding', he explained"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Atlanta Compromise and Template:Did you know nominations/Aviators Affair
- Comment: Term directly quoted, not even translated
Juxlos (talk) 00:11, 1 June 2025 (UTC).
Werner Mamugwe
- ... that in 1962 SWANU leader Werner Mamugwe was banned from entering Bechuanaland?
- Source: Oiva Angula. SWAPO Captive: A Comrade’s Experience of Betrayal and Torture. Penguin Random House South Africa, 2018
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Franklin Sonn, Template:Did you know nominations/Najmul Akhyar
Soman (talk) 23:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC).
The Hand That Signed the Paper
- ... that despite winning Australia's top literary prize, The Hand That Signed the Paper has since been labelled a hoax?
- Source: Shenon, Phillip (26 September 1995). "For fiction, and fibbing, she takes the prize". The New York Times. p. 4.
- Reviewed:
MCE89 (talk) 14:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 1
[edit]Mawa Sesay
- ... that soon after being unable to play to 500 days due to a leg injury, footballer Mawa Sesay helped her team get the the UEFA Women's Champions League for the first time?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2025 Philippine barangay and Sangguniang Kabataan elections
- Comment: I think the Instagram source is reliable because it is from the team itself.
History6042😊 (Contact me) 17:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 2
[edit]Ellen, Countess of Castle Howel
- ... that the first review of Ellen, Countess of Castle Howel complained that its marriage plot focused too much on love? Source: The Monthly Review, May 1794. Reviewer criticized it for "giving too much weight to the Passion of Love." ... "suffer us to ask, are gratitude, honour, friendship, and propriety, to be sacrificed at the altar of this fascinating divinity [i.e. love]?" "We must blame, and severely ... when all situations, however rationally and even affectionately happy, are overset to make way for former love."
~ L 🌸 (talk) 05:57, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Giulio Basetti-Sani
- ... that Giulio Basetti-Sani, an Italian Franciscan friar who was temporarily excommunicated for his positive view of Islam, contracted a civil marriage to do a PhD in the United States in the meantime?
- Source: Sturnega, Barbara (2011). Padre Giulio Basetti Sani (1912-2001): una vita per il dialogo cristiano-musulmano. p. 71-73. "Nel gennaio del 1959, un confratello canadese aveva segnalato al Padre Generale il suo libro Muhammad et St. François in quanto non cattolico e contenente molti errori storici, psicologici, ma soprattutto teologici. Tre padri furono così incaricati di esaminare il volume, e nel settembre 1959 emisero il loro inderogabile giudizio: «Apologia di una falsa religione (l'Islam)»...«La scomunica venne comunica al Padre General O.F.M. Una telefonata da Roma mi comunicava che per il Canona 646 del Diritto Canonico, per il fatto di essere pubblicamenta apostata della Chiesa, ero anche espulso dall'Ordine Francescano»...L'espulsione dall'Ordine fu una vera ingiustizia, poiché gettò padre Giulio sulla strada, senza nessun aiuto[.]...Il 23 settembre 1959 padre Giulio sbarcava a New York, e riceveva comunicazione delle disposizioni che erano state impartite dalla Curia Generalizia O.F.M.: tutti avevano l'ordine perentorio di non riceverlo nelle case dell'Ordine, né di autorizzarlo alla celebrazione della santa messa...si presentò da Sua Ecc.za mons. Pericone, vescovo ausiliario del Bronx; quisti lo accolse paternamenta e cercò di farsi da mediatore per una sua possibile riconciliazione con l'Ordine. In quei drammatici momenti una flebile speranza sembrò nuovamente riaccandersi in lui. Passarono intere settimane di lunga ed estenuante attesa e le difficoltà di padre Giulio crebbero in maniera esponenziale: da un lato per l'impossibilità di ottenere un qualsiasi lavoro, non avendo la residenza permanente, dall'altro per la difficoltà di rimanere ancora a lungo negli Stati Uniti, causa il rifiuto dell'Immigrant Office di concedergli il prolungamento del visto di soggiorno Il 2 gennaio 1960 giunse la comunicazione tanto attesa: la Curia Generalizia rispondeva negativamente al suo appello, nessuno avrebbe più dovuto occuparsi del suo caso, essendo ormai considerato un individuo 'perduto'...Il 15 febbraio 1960, padre Giulio contraeva quindi civili matrimonio con la dott.ssa Ursula Ellermann, dinanzi all'ufficiale della City Hall di New York. Egli sapeva bene che quella sua nuova azione l'avrebbe messo in una situazione ancor più precaria di fronte alla Chiesa; tuttavia, in cuor suo, non perdeva del tutto la speranza che un giorno l'autorità ecclesiastica avrebbe potuto avere quella comprensione che in altri casi aveva saputo mostrare...Con l'inizio del nuovo anno scolastico ottenne una borsa di studio per il Dropsie College di Philadelphia[.]"
- ALT1: ... that Giulio Basetti-Sani, after beginning his career as a missionary believing Muhammad to be a "prophet of Satan", ended his career believing the Quran to be a prophecy of Christ? Source: Sturnega 2011, p. 45; Marshall, David (2 January 2014). "Roman Catholic Approaches to the Qur'an since Vatican II". Islam and Christian–Muslim Relations. 25 (1): 89–100. doi:10.1080/09596410.2013.785090.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I prefer the first hook since it's such a weird story; if the phrasing needs to be workshopped I'm open to feedback on that.
- Comment: I added clear sourcing/quotes for the hook. Since the lifting of his excommunication isn't mentioned in the quotes, maybe it will need to be rephrased a bit. As is explained in the article, the sequence of events is (1) publishes controversial book (2) gets excommunicated (3) goes to New York and is unsuccessful in getting his excommunication lifted and has immigration problems (4) contracts a civil marriage for permanent residence and does a PhD and then (5) has his excommunication lifted after completing his PhD and divorcing.
M.A.Spinn (talk) 13:32, 3 June 2025 (UTC).
Besides needing citations immediately after the sentences from which the hooks are derived, I think all is in order. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:43, 5 June 2025 (UTC)
John Caesar
- ... that the first Australian bushranger was John Caesar, a Malagasy convict formerly enslaved in the United States?
- Reviewed:
SkywalkerEccleston (talk) 13:44, 2 June 2025 (UTC).
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. A QPQ is needed. Once it is done, this will be ready. Thriley (talk) 21:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 3
[edit]1887 Dakota Territory division referendum
- ... that the Dakotas may have been divided because of a "capital grab"?
- Reviewed:
DimensionalFusion (talk · she/her) 10:04, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 4
[edit]Abortion in Tunisia
- ... that although abortion in Tunisia has been available for free at government clinics since 1965, most abortions take place at expensive private facilities?
- Source: [40] Since 1965, abortion care has been free of charge in government facilities.
[41] According to the only available report, abortions in the private sector are between one and a half to three times more numerous than in public facilities
[42] Private sector abortion services are expensive [...]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KHSV, Template:Did you know nominations/Johann Sebastian Bach
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 05:26, 5 June 2025 (UTC).
Dan Muse
- ... that Dan Muse was a history teacher before becoming a hockey coach?
- Source: The Patriot Ledger - "While working as a paraprofessional aide at Canton High and later a history teacher at Archbishop Williams, he was brought on as an assistant at Milton Academy by head coach Paul Cannata. 'I was actually at the open house for Suffolk (University) Law, and made my decision there,' Muse said. 'I love teaching, I love coaching – I want to teach hockey.'"
- ALT1: ... that Dan Muse offered to coach college ice hockey for free? Source: USA Hockey - "I think I emailed every college coach I could and told them that I would work for free."
- ALT2: ... that Dan Muse showed Ryan Leonard, "what real hockey is"? Source: The Athletic
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fugitive Doctor
- Comment: Open to further suggestions about the hook!
The Kip (contribs) 23:57, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Joachim–Ma Stradivarius
- ... that an 18-year-old Hungarian who purchased a Stradivarius premiered the Brahams Violin Concerto?
- Reviewed:
Ohc revolution of our times 22:39, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Aquilegia, Aquilegia oxysepala, List of Aquilegia species
- ... that Aquilegia oxysepala (pictured), one of the approximately 130 species of columbine, has been used in traditional Chinese medicine for thousands of years?
- Source: Yu, Yan; Yi, Zhi-Biao; Liang, Yi-Zeng (August 2009). "Evaluation of Antioxidant Activities of Aquilegia oxysepala Hydroethanolic Extract". Journal of Food Biochemistry. 33 (4): 500–505. doi:10.1111/j.1745-4514.2009.00233.x. ISSN 0145-8884.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: My six QPQs are going to take me a day or so; please bear with me.
Pbritti (talk) 21:36, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Pinmonkey
- ... that country music band Pinmonkey got their name from an episode of The Simpsons?
Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 16:40, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
Cybersocket, Inc.
- ... that Cybersocket, Inc. started by repackaging public domain information into a niche paperback guide to gay porn sites?
- Source: "Our idea initially was to publish a book of information that repackaged public domain information. We decided to focus on a niche market in order to give our new publication an identity that stood out from the massive amounts of printed material in the marketplace. So we came up with our annual Cybersocket Directory." / Cybersocket is a masterclass of information for all things gay and lesbian including some amazing reviews of sites and movies
- ALT1: ... that the online directory of Cybersocket was created after a suggestion to turn a print guide into a search engine? Source: Not long after, a friend pointed out that their information would be much more useful and searchable if it were a website, so Blakey St. John, a longtime employee and webmaster for the company, exported the organized data to the Internet and turned it into a search engine.
- Reviewed: KMAX-TV
Damian Vo (talk) 17:09, 3 June 2025 (UTC).
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